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johntrix
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RESTRICTED vs. AD LIBITUM FEEDING. Any difference?
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June 24, 2008, 02:03:19 PM »
doc, meron po bang deperensya sa fattener ang feeding way na adlib sa restricted? kung meron po ano po ito? meron po akong 12 na bagong walay at gagawin kong fattener.sa ngayong stage na maliliit pa lang ginagawa ko ang adlib. any advice po to maximize ang live weight nito in a shortest feeding month? sa mga nakaranas ng both feeding process, share naman po. thanks!
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June 25, 2008, 09:11:59 PM »
Usually if adlibutm the animal grows more uniform.
Genetics , feeds and management should be all okay to be able to hve a good grow out.
Choose a feed with a good track record in your area.
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Baboy= Barako, inahin, fattener, kulig
Pig feeds=Breeder/gestating, lactating, booster, prestarter, starter, grower, finisher.
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johntrix
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June 26, 2008, 08:03:37 PM »
thanks doc. sa inahin ba doc 7 days mula pagkawalay you said maglalandi na ito, it means ba pwede na itong pakastahan? if not how many days more to wait bago pwede magpabulog. kase 3 days na na nawalay ang mga biik sa inahin ko im giving vitamins as u prescribe. please help...
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June 26, 2008, 08:11:50 PM »
Yup within 7 days it will return to heat and you can now breed it again.
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No pork for one week makes a man weak!!!
Baboy= Barako, inahin, fattener, kulig
Pig feeds=Breeder/gestating, lactating, booster, prestarter, starter, grower, finisher.
Swine Manual Raffle
johntrix
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July 10, 2008, 07:54:01 PM »
doc can you advice me ng tamang percentage pagdating sa paghahalo ng darak sa pakain ng fattener at inahin. me nakapagsabi sa kin na pwedeng 50% darak at 50% pure feeds sa inahin at pwedeng maghalo na ng darak sa fattener sa grower stage nila. tama po ba ito?hindi po ba maapektuhan ang timbang nila?
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July 10, 2008, 08:10:17 PM »
Quote from: nemo on June 25, 2008, 09:11:59 PM
Usually if adlibutm the animal grows more uniform.
Genetics , feeds and management should be all okay to be able to hve a good grow out.
Choose a feed with a good track record in your area.
problema dito prone sa nakawan ang feeds mo
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johntrix
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July 17, 2008, 07:00:57 PM »
hi doc. ok lang po ba na magshift from pre-starter feeds to grower feeds ? wala po bang masamang epekto ito sa mga biik? sa ngaun eksaktong 2 months old na ang mga ito. salamat po ulit.
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July 18, 2008, 09:39:18 PM »
always follow the recommendation of the feed manufacturer. By changing to grower agad the animal protein needs is not satisfied and it might cause runt / bansot na pigs.
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No pork for one week makes a man weak!!!
Baboy= Barako, inahin, fattener, kulig
Pig feeds=Breeder/gestating, lactating, booster, prestarter, starter, grower, finisher.
Swine Manual Raffle
jim
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Re: RESTRICTED vs. AD LIBITUM FEEDING. Any difference?
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July 24, 2008, 03:34:58 PM »
Hi Doc,
Just want to ask what should be the best feeding program that I could give to my sow to increase her weight. I already inject it vit. ADE and I give with mixed darak and breeder feeds for the last 1 month and I also gave dewormer as well, but as for now I can't see any changes that her body weight increases.
I want to sell it because the litter size of the piglets are not equal and there's no enough milk to produce.
Waiting for you're advice.
Thank you,
Jim
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July 24, 2008, 09:02:26 PM »
What we do if we want to bulk up the sows is to give them grower feeds.
The nutrients the animal gets might not be enough if you feed it darak+breeder feeds.
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No pork for one week makes a man weak!!!
Baboy= Barako, inahin, fattener, kulig
Pig feeds=Breeder/gestating, lactating, booster, prestarter, starter, grower, finisher.
Swine Manual Raffle
jim
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July 25, 2008, 08:38:11 AM »
Hi Doc,
Thanks a lot for your advice
Jim
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fathers pride
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July 27, 2008, 03:06:39 PM »
always follow the recommendation of the feed manufacturer. By changing to grower agad the animal protein needs is not satisfied and it might cause runt / bansot na pigs.
doc nemo
magtanong lang po kung ok yung di ka na mag shift sa grower. what i mean you grow your piglet up to market by pre starter & starter only? mas maganda daw ang pag laki.tama po ba yun?
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July 27, 2008, 07:30:37 PM »
Case to case basis.
If your animal is a fast grower giving them starter feeds is okay. I used to have customers that feed their animal with prestarter and then starter feeds only.
You have to also quantify the price of feeds to the growth rate of the animal.
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No pork for one week makes a man weak!!!
Baboy= Barako, inahin, fattener, kulig
Pig feeds=Breeder/gestating, lactating, booster, prestarter, starter, grower, finisher.
Swine Manual Raffle
johntrix
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August 12, 2008, 11:59:58 AM »
Hello doc, i visited my friend's pig pen. he has 7 fatteners and feeding them chick starter, chick grower to finisher. amazing results that they were bigger than my fatteners which being fed of normal hog feeds.it is then concluded na mas maganda ang epekto ng chick feeds than hogs siguro na rin sa content nito compare sa hog feeds. totoo ba un... nakaencounter ba kau ng direct effect sa weight nito? advice lang po...
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August 12, 2008, 02:49:53 PM »
Quote from: johntrix on August 12, 2008, 11:59:58 AM
Hello doc, i visited my friend's pig pen. he has 7 fatteners and feeding them chick starter, chick grower to finisher. amazing results that they were bigger than my fatteners which being fed of normal hog feeds.it is then concluded na mas maganda ang epekto ng chick feeds than hogs siguro na rin sa content nito compare sa hog feeds. totoo ba un... nakaencounter ba kau ng direct effect sa weight nito? advice lang po...
Bro ano ba ang mas mahal chick feeds o hog feeds?
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