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« Reply #75 on: February 05, 2008, 07:35:17 PM »

Mr Hog,Remember last week I was telling you about a hog shortage in Manila??Well down south where you are on that big island,they stopped shipping hogs to Manila,which caused a shortage and are driving up prices.Maybe good in the short term but if you upset the consumer,the consumer will just switch to another form of meat and there is no shortage of hogs in countries like China and Korea which produce alot of hogs and are always looking for new markets.If you study what the Slyfox posts for prices every week,one will start to notice that on some of the islands the prices never change week to week and month to month.Once the price of any food stuff is too expensive for the consumer to buy,the consumer will just buy something else.The white hog in the Philippines does not taste like the white hogs here.We have people showing up at our farm looking for the native hog because they do not like the taste of the white hog meat,a good business person who may see an opportunity would consider raising some natives just to supply the local markerplace.Back to basics,its your production cost(s) that will be the main factor,if you can make money or will you loose money.The customer is always king,if you upset the customer,the customer will just buy something else.My sister in law in Manila is telling us that there are more foreigners setting up farms there,the more of them setting up farms and producing livestock, the less need for livestock coming from down south.
Back to supply and demand,right now,supply and demand are steady but once there becomes an oversupply and lower demand,all hog producers better pray for a miracle.Think about it,everyday there are new people setting up some sort of hog operation,its a numbers game,at some point in the economy,things start to crash,we have seen this happen here in N.America.Once the feed becomes too expensive for most producers,the strongest ones will always survive and grown while the little guy will get eaten up by the big guy.You know what I am talking about.
Good Farming To You:
mikey



do you know why filipino pipol dont like the taste of white hog? im in the hog bizniz for 14 years and i know what filipino pipol like to taste hindi lang po native pig dyan ka nagkamali their a secret formula for that hehehehehehe .ito ang tanong ko  sa iyo  how much is chicken ? fish? beef? and vege? today hmmmmmmmmmm kaya tumaas ang PRICE its because of HIGH PRODUCTION COST.kaya lang bumababa ang presyo natin its because of pork importation.big processors want to import so that they can earn huge profit. do you know why some part of the country doesn't change their price? its because  @@@@@@@      do your homework first
 


alam mo ba kung ano mangyayari sa luzon in the next few year?  bakit lahat ng processors going SOUTH ?  lahat ng feedmill going to south also? kailangan pa ba i memorize yan hehehehehehehehehe















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« Reply #76 on: February 05, 2008, 07:58:01 PM »




do you know why filipino pipol dont like the taste of white hog? im in the hog bizniz for 14 years and i know what filipino pipol like to taste hindi lang po native pig dyan ka nagkamali their a secret formula for that hehehehehehe .ito ang tanong ko  sa iyo  how much is chicken ? fish? beef? and vege? today hmmmmmmmmmm kaya tumaas ang PRICE its because of HIGH PRODUCTION COST.kaya lang bumababa ang presyo natin its because of pork importation.big processors want to import so that they can earn huge profit. do you know why some part of the country doesn't change their price? its because  @@@@@@@      do your homework first
 


alam mo ba kung ano mangyayari sa luzon in the next few year?  bakit lahat ng processors going SOUTH ?  lahat ng feedmill going to south also? kailangan pa ba i memorize yan hehehehehehehehehe


 Huh Huh Huh hindi ko yata ma gets ang ibig mo sabihin slyfox, pwede ba paki detalye? Grin
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« Reply #77 on: February 05, 2008, 08:08:11 PM »

ano hindi mo maintindihan pre? isa isahin natin Smiley
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« Reply #78 on: February 05, 2008, 08:58:51 PM »

Some reason why farms migrate to the south:

1. Cheap labor.
2. Cheap feed ingredients.
3. less disease.
4. FMD free.
5. Not that saturated.
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« Reply #79 on: February 06, 2008, 09:25:54 AM »

Slyfox,you lost me in translation.My wife from region 7,not sure what you are saying.If you could type in english,I might be able to understand what you wrote.
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« Reply #80 on: February 06, 2008, 10:00:41 AM »

Doc,the Visayas is a agri. region,farming,where there is corn ,there is farming.Cattle sold for 20,000 is worth 60,000 in Manila.We are not the ones getting rich,here in Negros Oriental.We just produce for the big cities.FMD free is a bonus,but stops us from buying and shipping breeding stock from the north.There are more and more farms going up all the time,big farms.The Corporate Farm,big business.Interesting times ahead.
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« Reply #81 on: February 06, 2008, 10:41:27 AM »

do you know why filipino pipol dont like the taste of white hog? im in the hog bizniz for 14 years and i know what filipino pipol like to taste hindi lang po native pig dyan ka nagkamali their a secret formula for that hehehehehehe .ito ang tanong ko  sa iyo  how much is chicken ? fish? beef? and vege? today hmmmmmmmmmm kaya tumaas ang PRICE its because of HIGH PRODUCTION COST.kaya lang bumababa ang presyo natin its because of pork importation.big processors want to import so that they can earn huge profit. do you know why some part of the country doesn't change their price? its because  @@@@@@@      do your homework first
 

alam mo ba kung ano mangyayari sa luzon in the next few year?  bakit lahat ng processors going SOUTH ?  lahat ng feedmill going to south also? kailangan pa ba i memorize yan hehehehehehehehehe


ano hindi mo maintindihan pre? isa isahin natin Smiley

do you know why filipino pipol dont like the taste of white hog? = BAkit po ba hindi gusto ng mga pinoy ang puting baboy   Huh

their a secret formula for that = Ano po ba ang secret formula   Huh

do you know why some part of the country doesn't change their price? = Bakit nga po ba   Huh

bakit lahat ng processors going SOUTH ?  lahat ng feedmill going to south also? = Ito lang po yata ang alam kong sagot. Kaya po siguro papuntang South ang mga processor at feedmill ay sa dahilang wala masyado sakit dito at pollution. At kayo na din nagsabi na pangalawa na ang gensan interms sa swine industry.
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« Reply #82 on: February 06, 2008, 10:55:31 AM »

Iam always lost in transition
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« Reply #83 on: February 06, 2008, 10:59:16 AM »

do you know why filipino pipol dont like the taste of white hog? = BAkit po ba hindi gusto ng mga pinoy ang puting baboy   Huh 

dahil sa lean na ang karne kaya ayaw na ng pinoy kumain ng commercial pig. SINO naman ang may gusto ng LEAN meat hindi po ba tayo din mga pinoy hehehehehehehe ayaw ng matabang baboy na galing sa commercial farm pero ang lakas naman kumain ng native pig and WE ARE THE BIGGEST IMPORTER OF FAT (hotdog) and skin. alam ko kung ano gusto ng mga consumer ko


their a secret formula for that = Ano po ba ang secret formula   Huh


do you know why some part of the country doesn't change their price? = Bakit nga po ba   Huh



bakit lahat ng processors going SOUTH ?  lahat ng feedmill going to south also? = Ito lang po yata ang alam kong sagot. Kaya po siguro papuntang South ang mga processor at feedmill ay sa dahilang wala masyado sakit dito at pollution. At kayo na din nagsabi na pangalawa na ang gensan in terms sa swine industry.


isang point na yan bro. matagal na po 2nd largest hog industry ang gensan bro.


ikaw na lang bro mag research sa ibang question



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« Reply #84 on: February 06, 2008, 11:00:43 AM »

never mind I give up Huh Huh Huh
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« Reply #85 on: February 06, 2008, 11:16:42 AM »

Slyfox,you lost me in translation.My wife from region 7,not sure what you are saying.If you could type in english,I might be able to understand what you wrote.
Thanks;
mikey Region 7 Independant



help kindly translate it for mickey tnx  Smiley



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« Reply #86 on: February 06, 2008, 11:40:52 AM »

do you know why filipino pipol dont like the taste of white hog? = BAkit po ba hindi gusto ng mga pinoy ang puting baboy   Huh

dahil sa lean na ang karne kaya ayaw na ng pinoy kumain ng commercial pig. SINO naman ang may gusto ng LEAN meat hindi po ba tayo din mga pinoy hehehehehehehe ayaw ng matabang baboy na galing sa commercial farn pero ang lakas naman kumain ng native pig at WE ARE THE BIGGEST IMPORTER OF FAT (hotdog) and skin. alam ko kung ano gusto ng mga consumer ko.

Hindi ko pa din magets kasi po parang contadicting ang sinasabi nyo. AYAW NA NG PINOY KUMAIN NG PUTING BABOY DAHIL LEAN MEAT PERO PINOY DIN ANG MAY GUSTO NG LEAN MEAT. AYAW KUMAIN NG COMMERCIAL PIG PERO MALAKAS KUMAIN NG NATIVE. Ang ibig nyo po ba sabihin ay kelangan may LAHI NG NATIVE ang aalagaan nating baboy? Mas maganda po sana paki share naman po kasi mas meron po kayo experience kaysa sa amin.


their a secret formula for that = Ano po ba ang secret formula   Huh

TALAGA PO BANG SECRET ITO?

do you know why some part of the country doesn't change their price? = Bakit nga po ba   Huh
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« Reply #87 on: February 06, 2008, 12:13:53 PM »

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Hindi ko pa din magets kasi po parang contadicting ang sinasabi nyo. AYAW NA NG PINOY KUMAIN NG PUTING BABOY DAHIL LEAN MEAT PERO PINOY DIN ANG MAY GUSTO NG LEAN MEAT. AYAW KUMAIN NG COMMERCIAL PIG PERO MALAKAS KUMAIN NG NATIVE. Ang ibig nyo po ba sabihin ay kelangan may LAHI NG NATIVE ang aalagaan nating baboy? Mas maganda po sana paki share naman po kasi mas meron po kayo experience kaysa sa amin.


tayo mga pinoy lagi nagcocomplain sa taba ng commercial hog before. kaya ang ginawa ng mga commercial raiser pina lean nila ang baboy ngayon nag lean na ayaw naman ng pinoy  kumain dahil hindi na tender and juicy. ironic talaga.

hindi po native pig ang aalagain mo. meron formula(secret) dyan para sa mga purebreed and highbreed pig na ma retain ang tender and juicy ng baboy.


good luck

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« Reply #88 on: February 06, 2008, 12:29:05 PM »

Doc,the Visayas is a agri. region,farming,where there is corn ,there is farming.Cattle sold for 20,000 is worth 60,000 in Manila.We are not the ones getting rich,here in Negros Oriental.We just produce for the big cities.FMD free is a bonus,but stops us from buying and shipping breeding stock from the north.There are more and more farms going up all the time,big farms.The Corporate Farm,big business.Interesting times ahead.
Good Day: mikey

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we(gensan) cattle raiser import cattle from other country not from luzon. our price here if im not mistaken 50 to 60k a cattle.
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« Reply #89 on: February 06, 2008, 12:36:55 PM »

I thought this thread was for price per kg?
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