GILTS

[sanico]

Hi Doc,
I have 3- F1 gilts ( Carmen, Nena, and Myrna )and they are sisters. They aged 6 months and 1 week.
Their 1st heat was last Feb.13,2009 at sabay-sabay. Carmen weighs = 134 kgs,
Nena weighs = 105 kgs and Myrna weighs = 97 kgs, and they on the same pig pen.
I want to separate Carmen for she is already overweight to breed at around 120 - 130 kgs.,
para makakain din ng husto sina Nena at Myrna to catch up with their breeding weight.
Will it be ok to separate Carmen and it will not affect  them for their ovulation period
on their 2nd heat and 3rd heat ?
Salamat

[nemo]

It is okay. Normally if the animal is huge enough you can move it to another pen.

[sanico]

SAlamat po.

It is okay. Normally if the animal is huge enough you can move it to another pen.

[sanico]

Hi Doc,

One of the Gilt ( Carmen ) has her 1st Heat last Feb 13, and last Feb. 21 heats again for her 2nd Heat.,instead on Mar.6.Is it normal or abnormal for a Gilt to come into Heat within 8 days instead of 21 days? Do we have to breed
when the 3rd Heat comes ? By this time, Age of the Gilt is about 210 days and about 134 kg only.
Do we have also to adjust the vaccination program for Gilts? Instead of 7 days interval per vaccine , can we adjust to  5 days interval ?

Thanks.

Hi Doc,
I have 3- F1 gilts ( Carmen, Nena, and Myrna )and they are sisters. They aged 6 months and 1 week.
Their 1st heat was last Feb.13,2009 at sabay-sabay. Carmen weighs = 134 kgs,
Nena weighs = 105 kgs and Myrna weighs = 97 kgs, and they on the same pig pen.
I want to separate Carmen for she is already overweight to breed at around 120 - 130 kgs.,
para makakain din ng husto sina Nena at Myrna to catch up with their breeding weight.
Will it be ok to separate Carmen and it will not affect  them for their ovulation period
on their 2nd heat and 3rd heat ?
Salamat

[nemo]

it is not normal, wait for march 6  and see if it will heat normally. March 6 would be the normal 2nd heat.

Or its 2nd heat could be March 14 assuming that Feb 21 is its "true heat".

It seldom happen but it do occurs sometimes in animal after its heat period it will show another sign of heat 9-11 days after its heat period, this is pseudoheat.

Stick with the 21 day cycle whether it will fall on march 6 or march 14 it will be considered as 2nd heat pa rin.

Don't adjust the vaccination.

[sanico]

Thanks Doc, God Bless.

it is not normal, wait for march 6  and see if it will heat normally. March 6 would be the normal 2nd heat.

Or its 2nd heat could be March 14 assuming that Feb 21 is its "true heat".

It seldom happen but it do occurs sometimes in animal after its heat period it will show another sign of heat 9-11 days after its heat period, this is pseudoheat.

Stick with the 21 day cycle whether it will fall on march 6 or march 14 it will be considered as 2nd heat pa rin.

Don't adjust the vaccination.

[sanico]

Hi Doc,
Ask ko lang po. Puede ba mag inject ng Vitamins B with liver extract sa mga Gilts
and Junior Boars kahit na ang mga ito ay on-going ang vaccination program para
sa kanila? May natira pa sa ginamit namin noon at kong puede pa ba ito ibigay ?
Salamat

[nemo]

yup, vitamins is okay.

[sanico]

Hi Doc,
Suppose to be the 2nd heat will be on March 6, (21 days after the 1st heat ), ngunit napa aga
ang dating ng 2nd heat, instead of March 6 nag standing heat ito ng March 4 at dalawa sila sang
ng heat also on Feb 21. Natural lang ba na maaga lumandi at hindi pumatak
sa 21 days ?
At ang isa  na nag 1st heat last Feb13 ay hindi lumandi until now ( 24 days ), mag lalandi pa ba ito
for  2nd heat o may problema na ang gilt ? Ano naman Doc ang silent heater ? Salamat.

it is not normal, wait for march 6  and see if it will heat normally. March 6 would be the normal 2nd heat.

Or its 2nd heat could be March 14 assuming that Feb 21 is its "true heat".

It seldom happen but it do occurs sometimes in animal after its heat period it will show another sign of heat 9-11 days after its heat period, this is pseudoheat.

Stick with the 21 day cycle whether it will fall on march 6 or march 14 it will be considered as 2nd heat pa rin.

Don't adjust the vaccination.

[nemo]

21 days is the usual but like in human being there are times na napapaaga and nalalate.

24 days, it is possible that it would heat.

Silent heater are animal that are in heat  but there are almost no physical evidence that it is in heat.
THe only way to find out that it is in heat is when you apply back pressure. If the animal will not move then it means the animal is in heat and it will accept a boar.

[sanico]

Hi Doc,
We notice today that the teats of the gilt, ( the one that did not come to 2nd heat until now on 24th day), become
13 only and the other one did not protrude or lumabas katulad ng iba, umurong  ito paloob instead na palabas.
Magandang po bang gagawing  inahin ito kapag 13 teats na lang ?
Salamat.

Hi Doc,
Suppose to be the 2nd heat will be on March 6, (21 days after the 1st heat ), ngunit napa aga
ang dating ng 2nd heat, instead of March 6 nag standing heat ito ng March 4 at dalawa sila sang
ng heat also on Feb 21. Natural lang ba na maaga lumandi at hindi pumatak
sa 21 days ?
At ang isa  na nag 1st heat last Feb13 ay hindi lumandi until now ( 24 days ), mag lalandi pa ba ito
for  2nd heat o may problema na ang gilt ? Ano naman Doc ang silent heater ? Salamat.

it is not normal, wait for march 6  and see if it will heat normally. March 6 would be the normal 2nd heat.

Or its 2nd heat could be March 14 assuming that Feb 21 is its "true heat".

It seldom happen but it do occurs sometimes in animal after its heat period it will show another sign of heat 9-11 days after its heat period, this is pseudoheat.

Stick with the 21 day cycle whether it will fall on march 6 or march 14 it will be considered as 2nd heat pa rin.

Don't adjust the vaccination.

[sanico]

Hi Doc Nemo,
 Doc, one of our gilt that was breed last 1/1/10 at today it is the 24th day after breeding
and we notice that there is a sticky gel na lumulabas sa puerta nito. Hindi naman ito nag
reheat after 17 to 21 days. Kung backflow ito, di ba dapat white creamy discharges ito ?
First time kami nakakita at encounter ng ganito. Ano kaya ang sticky gel na ito na parang condesed milk ?
Thank you,Doc.

[nemo]

possible nabackflow p rin ito.

Yun pagiging iba ng kulay kung minsan due to mild infection na lang at the same time Considered na foreign kasi ang sperm kaya inaatack siya ng antibodies etc ng inahing baboy. at yun ibang kulay nito ay dahil may kasamang pus etc..

[erwinph]

ano po ba yung backflow? first time ko lang pong magbreed, and i noticed na may lumabas din na creamy and sticky substance galing sa sow gaya ng description above. medyo namula rin yun ari ng sow kaya hindi ko sure kung nagreheat ba ito. nangyari po ito 14 days after breeding. ano po kaya ang ibig sabihin noon?

by the way, try ko rin ipabulog ulit yung sow yesterday dahil ang isip ko nga nagreheat ito kasi medyo namula nga yung ari. pero ngbubulugin na sya, ayaw nyang magpasampa sa barako at parang nasasaktan kapag ipinapasok yung ari ng barako. itinigil na po namin ipabulog after 2 failed attempts. sign din po kaya yun na posibleng pregnant na yung sow kaya ayaw na nyang magpasampa? kung pregnant na ito, ano kaya maging epekto ng pagsubok namin na ipabulog sya ulit?

wala po ako talaga idea kaya i will really appreciate lahat ng tulong at payo nyo. salamat po ng marami in advance.

[nemo]

yun reheat po kasi usually 21 days after mabulog. yun nakita nyo mas mataas na kasama na dyan yun backflow but it is not a sign of reheat.

Kung sa tanong mo na buntis na siya hindi pa rin assured . Usually kasi you need to observe sa 21 and 42 days kung mareheat siya. kung hindi most likely buntis na siya.  I use the word most likely kasi may case na hindi nagreheat but hindi din buntis, although konti lang yun nagkakaganito.