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Starting a swine business.
« on: January 15, 2007, 05:54:32 PM »
Ito po ay ilang bagay na dapat ikonsidera bago magtayo ng babuyan sa inyong lugar.

1. Itanong nyo sa inyong barangay captain kung sa inyong lugar ba ay maaaring magtayo ng babuyan. Ano ano ang mga regulasyon ng munisipyo patungkol dito? May mga lugar kasi na dpat 1 km ang layo ng babuyan sa kabahayanan kaya mas maganda kung magtanong muna sila.

2. May kuryente ba at malinis na pagkukunan ng tubig sa pagtatayuan ng babuyan.

3. Malapit ba sa kalsada ang babuyan na pagtatayuan. Madali ba itong madeliveran ng feeds, mapuntahan ng buyer etc.

4. Meron ba kayong pagkukunan ng magandang lahi ng baboy. Kung inahin naman ang inyong aalagaan. Meron bang malapit na A.I. center o kaya nagbubulog sa inyong lugar o kalapit na lugar.

5.  Ilang baboy ang balak nilang alagaan at sino ang mag aalaga dito.

6. Meron bang tindahan ng feeds na malapit sa inyong lugar.

7.  Meron bang technitian o kaya beterinaryo kayong pwedeng mapuntahan sa panahong may problema kayo sa inyong baboy.

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Re: Starting a swine business.
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2007, 12:57:08 PM »
good day!

Ok ba ang mag hog contract growing sa MONTEREY?

ano ang advantages/disadvantages ng contact growing compared sa hindi?

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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2007, 11:59:55 AM »
HIndi ko po masasabi sa ngayon kung maganda o pangit ang contract growing ng monterey sa dahilang hindi ko po alam kung ano ba ang terms na ibinibigay ng monterey.

Ito po ay ilang pointers para makatulong sa kanilang pagdesisyon kung papasok ba sila sa contract growing.

1.  Ano ang target weight nila? Kung sakali bang hindi kayo umaabot sa target weight magkano ay ibabayad sa inyo? Kayo ba ay magkakaroon ng penalty kapg hindi kayo umabot sa target weight?

2. Kapag naaproved ang kanilang contact grower, tuloy tuloy ba ang pagdadala sa inyo ng alagain?  Kalimitan kasi sa contract growing mayroon silang specific na design na dapat ninyo sundin. AT minsan sa paggawa palang ng  kulungan milyon na ang mauubos. Kung hindi naman nila masisigurado na laging tuloy tuloy ang dating ng baboy kayo po ang malulugi.

3. sino ang gagastos sa gamot ng baboy at maysuporta ba sila na beterinaryo?

4. Pagdating sa bayaran ito ba ay COD, 15 days, etc.

5. Fix ba ang bilang ng araw na pagkuha sa inyong alaga.



Ang advantage ng contract grower ay sigurado ang buyer nila. Ang disadvantage naman ay ang malaking puhunan nito kumpara sa gumawa ka ng sariling babuyan.
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Re: Starting a swine business.
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2007, 08:01:57 AM »
a. 3.4M ang cost ng House (climate control system)
b. 660 capacity
c. growers fee - Php 535.92/head harvested
d. target harvest wt. - 95k
e. seeding wt. - 25k
f. 90 days per cycle
g. 3.69 cycles per year
h. monterey will provide the medicines and the veterinarian
i. 5 years ang contract and assured nila ang tuloy-tuloy na pagpapadala ng alagain baboy (full capacity ng house)
j. payment is 15days pero pwede mag advance


ano sa tingin nyo po sa ganitong terms ng monterey?
maganda po ba o hindi? ano po ba ang dapat ko pang klaruhin sa kanila?

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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2007, 11:03:52 AM »
Sa tingin ko po medyo mahirap maattain ang 95 kg in 90 days kahit na magstart kayo ng 25 kgs.  So dito magfofocus ang kanilang usapan. Kung sakaling hindi maattain ang ganitong timbang ano ang magiging penalty nila. Add pa din sa idea ay kung sakaling may mamatay dito sa alaga ninyo ito ba ay ibabawas sa kanila kung sakaling oo, magkano o paaano ang computasyon.

Climate control= does it mean air conditioned or tunnel ventilated. kahit alin man sa dalawa possible na sa electric bill palang ang monthly ninyo is pinakamababa na ang  10T kapag bentilated at pag aircon around 20t minimum.

Labor cost nyo minimum na 2 tao ang kailangan.

Yun nagtatayo po ng piggery kalimitan around 2-3 years bawi na nila ang kanilang puhunan. Sa monteroy ano po ba ang nasabi sa kanilang ROI?

Ask din po nila kung may specific limit ang pagkain ng baboy nila. Halimbawa sa kanila ba dapat kapag 5 sako na nakain ng baboy titimbang na ba ito ng 95 kgs at kapag sumobra dun ibabawas ba ito sa kita nila.

If possible po try to ask monterey kung meron po silang mairerefer na mga contact grower din nila para mainterview nyo po nang in and out of the business.

So far sa tingin ko po ang malaking problem nila is the 95 kgs in 90 days for me medyo mahirap ito.
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Re: Starting a swine business.
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2007, 12:06:05 PM »
Dr. Nemo,it is my understanding that hog farming is not cheap to set up and operate,am I correct.
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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2007, 06:46:54 PM »
Yup setting a farm is a little bit costly but rewarding because it is  income generating and therapeutic also in nature.
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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2007, 02:08:41 AM »
Dr. Nemo,was just wondering if becoming a contract producer has more benefits over a owner operator operation.
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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2007, 07:04:07 AM »
The contract growing in this country in terms of hogs is not yet that common although some big company now do this.

The issue about contract growing is the target weight. Although attainable but it is for my opinion very stiff. In the poultry business if your grower did not meet the target weight then you will be obliged by the  company to pay them their losses. I do think it is also the same with the hog grower.

Just imagine  how much you will loose if this happen to your hogs. And also investment in hog contract growing is huge.

it is better to have a poultry contract grower than a hog contract grower because of the liveweight issue.

Most of the time liveweight of poultry is not that enouraging so if you have a sure buyer like the owner of the contract grower/referral this problem is address. But in swine liveweight price is not that too low compared to the poultry. So issue with liveweights is really a big big issue. In hogs more often you have a profit unlike in poultry that due to liveweight price there are times that you will sell you produce much cheaper than your cost to produce.
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Re: Starting a swine business.
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2007, 03:32:46 PM »
Dr. Nemo,sounds like a headache,in Canada a person cannot start a large farm unless they buy what is commonly known as a quota (Canadian Govt. issue) a farmer/business must pay for such a quota,the quota allows the farmer/businessman to produce a certain number of livestock,hogs,beef cattle,chickens,turkeys.ducks,geese,dairy cows etc.you are not allowed to exceed this amount,thank goodness the Philippine Govt. is not selling quotas so far.   Good Day To You                     mikey

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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2007, 03:57:54 PM »
In a sense it is like being an employee again. Even though you have the money you  still have a boss to satisfy just to earn.
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Re: Starting a swine business.
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2007, 10:37:06 PM »
hi doc! would just like to ask if the P535.92/piglet harvested is the maximum fee to be paid by monterey to its growers?

our company is currently looking for contract growers and breeders for our pigs. we will provide the stocks, vet. med., vaccines, technical support, feeds and regular visits by our pig health specialist.
the partner will provide the building, manpower, electricity and water...

if there are interested people, we will present our growers or breeders scheme to them and we will visit their farms for site inspection.
 
thank you very much...

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« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2007, 11:11:04 PM »
I am not sure if it is the maximum fee that they would offer. I am not in any way connected to them eh.
You could try to email dok929 about the details and maybe you could introduce your company to them.

If you like you could post another topic about your company's contract grower and i would put it in sticky post . So everyone who would visit this site could easily see it.
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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2007, 07:33:19 PM »
Thanks Doc!
Currently we have breeding farms in Pangasinan and Davao City and grower farms in Pangasinan, La Union and Cagayan Valley.
Will post more in the coming days.

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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2007, 11:24:01 AM »
Your welcome
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