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Re: Flushing in gilts
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2008, 11:46:09 AM »
Yes you can  start to breed it on it's second heat. Especially if the animal is on the 110-130 kg already.

You can also use your largewhite boar.

There are times that first parity(unang anakan)  have small number of piglets born, it is normal. It will increase on the 2nd and 3rd etc..
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Re: Flushing in gilts
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2008, 05:13:09 PM »
Hi Doc Nemo,

What about the vaccination program of the gilt? We have not finish yet the implementation program you have given to me? If we breed the gilt on its 2nd Heat ,then we will be counting days of its pregnany and to implement the pregnancy vaccination program? Please advise. Thanks.

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Yes you can  start to breed it on it's second heat. Especially if the animal is on the 110-130 kg already.

You can also use your largewhite boar.

There are times that first parity(unang anakan)  have small number of piglets born, it is normal. It will increase on the 2nd and 3rd etc..



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Re: Flushing in gilts
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2008, 10:45:15 PM »
I posted the answer in the vaccination program help post
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Re: Flushing in gilts
« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2008, 05:54:11 PM »
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    pwede rin po ba alternative feeds sa flushing may bad effect po kya ito?

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Re: Flushing in gilts
« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2008, 11:38:57 PM »
If you are currently using an alternative feeds and you do not see any problem in your animal then technically  you can use it for flushing.

Flushing is just increasing the food intake of the animal.
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« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2008, 08:40:49 PM »
Hi Doc,
Pasencia na,maari po ba magtanong ulit? This is regarding the usage or services to be rendered by my largewhite boar to my landrace gilt. The boar bday is 09/04/07 and the gilt bday is 09/02/07. Tentatively the 2nd Heat of the gilt is on Apr.17 and to be breed on Apr. 19 as previously discussed. My question is, can the boar make a follow-up service(2nd) the following day to the gilt considering the boar age?
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Yes you can  start to breed it on it's second heat. Especially if the animal is on the 110-130 kg already.

You can also use your largewhite boar.

There are times that first parity(unang anakan)  have small number of piglets born, it is normal. It will increase on the 2nd and 3rd etc..


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Re: Flushing in gilts
« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2008, 09:03:12 PM »
The April 19 is still a tentative, bred her kapag pumapayag na siya whether it falls in 19 or earlier.

The usual age is around 8 months to use the boar but 7 1/2 is not that far naman. You can use him and repeat the following day.  For starter one gilt per week  mo lang siya pwede magservice.  If 8 months na siya 2 sow per week pwede na siya.



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Re: Flushing in gilts
« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2008, 10:24:04 PM »
Thanks Doc Nemo

The April 19 is still a tentative, bred her kapag pumapayag na siya whether it falls in 19 or earlier.

The usual age is around 8 months to use the boar but 7 1/2 is not that far naman. You can use him and repeat the following day.  For starter one gilt per week  mo lang siya pwede magservice.  If 8 months na siya 2 sow per week pwede na siya.





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Re: Flushing in gilts
« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2008, 10:20:49 PM »
Hi Doc,

I just came from my farm. My neighbor backyard raisers told me that my largewhite boar should serve
for his first time a sow (nakaranas na manganak) to satisfy him, so that on his next service there won't
be any problem. Is their idea correct Doc? Besides, there is no more time for the largewhite boar to service others
for he will service the landrace gilt tentatively on Saturday. What about giving GONADIN to the landrace gilt so that heat na heat ito at hinde makapalag during their mating? Thanks.

Nick

The April 19 is still a tentative, bred her kapag pumapayag na siya whether it falls in 19 or earlier.

The usual age is around 8 months to use the boar but 7 1/2 is not that far naman. You can use him and repeat the following day.  For starter one gilt per week  mo lang siya pwede magservice.  If 8 months na siya 2 sow per week pwede na siya.





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Re: Flushing in gilts
« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2008, 01:15:23 AM »
Actually it is not the "masatisfy issue" some use a new boar to a sow because tentatively sows are more receptive than gilts. So, in essence there are less chances that the sow will refuse the boar, on the part of the boar his first time would not be frustrating.

But there is also a chance that if the sow is big then it would be a problem for the new boar because there is a height difference, he cannot service the sow properly and it would be frustrating on his part. And also there are also some sow that are not receptive enough even they are in heat.

As you could see it is a see-saw idea. It might go both ways.

So, it is  a matter of assuring the gilt will not move when she is being bred, meaning she should be really in-heat. To be certain, apply back pressure. Let your caretaker ride/ press hard  on the rump area of the gilt simulating the weight of the boar. If the gilt will not move then it would be okay to use your boar.
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Re: Flushing in gilts
« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2008, 11:27:41 AM »
Ok Doc it is clear now to me.. Thanks

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Actually it is not the "masatisfy issue" some use a new boar to a sow because tentatively sows are more receptive than gilts. So, in essence there are less chances that the sow will refuse the boar, on the part of the boar his first time would not be frustrating.

But there is also a chance that if the sow is big then it would be a problem for the new boar because there is a height difference, he cannot service the sow properly and it would be frustrating on his part. And also there are also some sow that are not receptive enough even they are in heat.

As you could see it is a see-saw idea. It might go both ways.

So, it is  a matter of assuring the gilt will not move when she is being bred, meaning she should be really in-heat. To be certain, apply back pressure. Let your caretaker ride/ press hard  on the rump area of the gilt simulating the weight of the boar. If the gilt will not move then it would be okay to use your boar.

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Re: Flushing in gilts
« Reply #26 on: April 21, 2008, 07:58:55 PM »
Hi Doc,

We have been observing the landrace gilt to come into heat since last April 17
so that we can breed on the 19th. But unfotunately until now, April 21 ,the gilt did
not come to heat or standing heat. What shall we do Doc? Shall we wait or any
suggestions from you? Thanks.

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The April 19 is still a tentative, bred her kapag pumapayag na siya whether it falls in 19 or earlier.

The usual age is around 8 months to use the boar but 7 1/2 is not that far naman. You can use him and repeat the following day.  For starter one gilt per week  mo lang siya pwede magservice.  If 8 months na siya 2 sow per week pwede na siya.





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Re: Flushing in gilts
« Reply #27 on: April 21, 2008, 09:56:59 PM »
Try to stress the gilt.

Give only little food. Around 1/2 of it's usual feed allocation for 3 days.
Observed, if they will come to heat. Some farm don't give food literally to their animal but i think that too much stress.

If still no effect, give hormone. If still no effect ask the farm where you brought the gilt if they can give replacement. Some breeding farm offer some kind of warranty/assurance.
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Re: Flushing in gilts
« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2008, 10:11:38 PM »
Hi Doc,

At last the landrace gilt was on standing heat last night at around 7pm and mated by largewhite
boar and it was repeated this morning at around 7am. We will observe now until 21st day if it will become pregnant.Thanks a lot for your advises.

Nick


Try to stress the gilt.

Give only little food. Around 1/2 of it's usual feed allocation for 3 days.
Observed, if they will come to heat. Some farm don't give food literally to their animal but i think that too much stress.

If still no effect, give hormone. If still no effect ask the farm where you brought the gilt if they can give replacement. Some breeding farm offer some kind of warranty/assurance.


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Re: Flushing in gilts
« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2008, 06:24:54 PM »
hi doc,
      good day po sa kanila...doc hanggang kelan po ba dapat ang flushing kelan po ba sapat ito ihinto?thank you doc......

 

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