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Terminology:  standing heat:This it the time on which a gilt or a sow becomes receptive to a boar/       
                                       Nagpapabulog na siya.
Flushing

Flushing is done to a gilt to increase the release of eggs in its ovaries.
This is done by increasing the feed intake 10-14 days prior to standing heat.

How to do it:

Usually we breed the sow at 7-8 months of age or if it has already stood to heat 2-3 times.

So, if the animal first heat is around 6 months you need to count 21 days to its second heat.  Then another 21 days to its third heat.

 At the start of the second heat count 11 days and when that day comes increase the feed intake of the animal.

And at its next heat (around 10 days later) you can then breed it already.

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Doc Nemo, can you elaborate further;

So, if the animal first heat is around 6 months you need to count 21 days to its second heat.  Then another 21 days to its second heat.

sorry, i have already edited the post. I am to sleepy when i post it.  ;D ;D ;D

Doc nemo, thanks.

eh pano po ang pag flushing sa inahin na o nanganak na papabulugan ulit?wat po yung pang flushing?

Actually vitamins ADE is just given.

Usually if the sow is not thin or to fat it will return to heat in just 7 days.

And because of the lactation feed that it eat during the lactation period it still have enough energy for the release of the eggs.

anung klaseng feeds po ang ipapapakain pag flushing gestation or broodsow din po ba?
kong ang sow na after mawalay ang mga piglets panu ang count bago iflushing?

thks

Breeder mash, broodsow, or gestating pwede.
Kung bagong walay ang anak usually 7 days maglalandi na dapat ito, longest na 14 days.
Vitamins ADE na lang ang ibinibigay after mag walay and then normal dami lang ang feeds around 2.5-3 kgs per day dpende sa suggestion ng manufacturer ng feeds.

Ang flushing usually for gilt lang.

Doc, I once read chromium does help in sow's reproductive system.  Any input please?  Where can I find chromium?

Yes research shows that it will. But economics wise i don't think we this yet. Focusing in management will also give us the same result.

i've heard mas maganda daw kong lactation feeds ang gagamitin sa flushing? how true? para lalong mahinog ang mga cells?

thks

half true, all feeds will increase the ovulation as long as it will provide the necessary energy needed of the animal.

What you are trying to do is increase the energy of the animal and any food that have good energy source could give the same result.

Doc,
Ilang kilong feeds po ba ang ipapakain sa GIlt 11 days after second heat?

You can increase it by 3 kgs.

You can also check the recommendation of the feed manufacturer. Most of the time they give recommendation about this.

Commercial feeds are not all the same. So amount to feed could vary from one manufacturer to another.

Dear Doc Nemo,
Good day Doc. My landrace gilt has her first heat since last Friday (Mar.28)
and will be 7 months old this coming April 2. My question are: Is the gilt can
be breed on its second heat or I will wait for the 3rd heat for her breeding?
Can I use also my largewhite boar aged almost as my landrace gilt to service her?

Thanks,
Nick

Yes you can  start to breed it on it's second heat. Especially if the animal is on the 110-130 kg already.

You can also use your largewhite boar.

There are times that first parity(unang anakan)  have small number of piglets born, it is normal. It will increase on the 2nd and 3rd etc..

Hi Doc Nemo,

What about the vaccination program of the gilt? We have not finish yet the implementation program you have given to me? If we breed the gilt on its 2nd Heat ,then we will be counting days of its pregnany and to implement the pregnancy vaccination program? Please advise. Thanks.

Nick

I posted the answer in the vaccination program help post

doc.
    pwede rin po ba alternative feeds sa flushing may bad effect po kya ito?

If you are currently using an alternative feeds and you do not see any problem in your animal then technically  you can use it for flushing.

Flushing is just increasing the food intake of the animal.

Hi Doc,
Pasencia na,maari po ba magtanong ulit? This is regarding the usage or services to be rendered by my largewhite boar to my landrace gilt. The boar bday is 09/04/07 and the gilt bday is 09/02/07. Tentatively the 2nd Heat of the gilt is on Apr.17 and to be breed on Apr. 19 as previously discussed. My question is, can the boar make a follow-up service(2nd) the following day to the gilt considering the boar age?
Thanks, Nick

The April 19 is still a tentative, bred her kapag pumapayag na siya whether it falls in 19 or earlier.

The usual age is around 8 months to use the boar but 7 1/2 is not that far naman. You can use him and repeat the following day.  For starter one gilt per week  mo lang siya pwede magservice.  If 8 months na siya 2 sow per week pwede na siya.

Thanks Doc Nemo

Hi Doc,

I just came from my farm. My neighbor backyard raisers told me that my largewhite boar should serve
for his first time a sow (nakaranas na manganak) to satisfy him, so that on his next service there won't
be any problem. Is their idea correct Doc? Besides, there is no more time for the largewhite boar to service others
for he will service the landrace gilt tentatively on Saturday. What about giving GONADIN to the landrace gilt so that heat na heat ito at hinde makapalag during their mating? Thanks.

Nick

Actually it is not the "masatisfy issue" some use a new boar to a sow because tentatively sows are more receptive than gilts. So, in essence there are less chances that the sow will refuse the boar, on the part of the boar his first time would not be frustrating.

But there is also a chance that if the sow is big then it would be a problem for the new boar because there is a height difference, he cannot service the sow properly and it would be frustrating on his part. And also there are also some sow that are not receptive enough even they are in heat.

As you could see it is a see-saw idea. It might go both ways.

So, it is  a matter of assuring the gilt will not move when she is being bred, meaning she should be really in-heat. To be certain, apply back pressure. Let your caretaker ride/ press hard  on the rump area of the gilt simulating the weight of the boar. If the gilt will not move then it would be okay to use your boar.

Ok Doc it is clear now to me.. Thanks

nick

Hi Doc,

We have been observing the landrace gilt to come into heat since last April 17
so that we can breed on the 19th. But unfotunately until now, April 21 ,the gilt did
not come to heat or standing heat. What shall we do Doc? Shall we wait or any
suggestions from you? Thanks.

Nick

Try to stress the gilt.

Give only little food. Around 1/2 of it's usual feed allocation for 3 days.
Observed, if they will come to heat. Some farm don't give food literally to their animal but i think that too much stress.

If still no effect, give hormone. If still no effect ask the farm where you brought the gilt if they can give replacement. Some breeding farm offer some kind of warranty/assurance.

Hi Doc,

At last the landrace gilt was on standing heat last night at around 7pm and mated by largewhite
boar and it was repeated this morning at around 7am. We will observe now until 21st day if it will become pregnant.Thanks a lot for your advises.

Nick

hi doc,
      good day po sa kanila...doc hanggang kelan po ba dapat ang flushing kelan po ba sapat ito ihinto?thank you doc......

PAra sa gilt 10-14 days bago maglandi ang baboy nagsisimula na ang flushing. Inihihinto ito kapag naglandi na siya.

Sa inahin kasi hindi na nafluflush, pag walay kasi ng inahin  kalimitan 5-7 days lang return to heat na ito.

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For gilt it start 10-14 before the tentative date of heat and you could stop it when the animal is already in heat.

In dry sows, there is no flushing because usually after weaning 5-7 day it will return to heat.

doc,
     good day po sa kanila..pagdating naman po sa malapit na manganak na inahin kailan po ba dapat natin bawasan ang pagbibigay ng pakain sa kanila?

Some decreased feed 2-3 days before farrowing/panganganak.

But what i used to do is a day before farrowing i decreased to half the feed intake.

Good day sir,

Parang late na po yatang nagheat 2 gilts ko kasi 8 months na sila nung nag-first heat. Bale nung 7 months sila ok naman po health nila but they were only weighing around 120-125 kgs. under weight na po ba yun at that age?

Anyway, they're at their 2nd heat as of now. 8 more days and I'll start flushing them. My problem now doc is 150 kgs na sila ngayon @ 8 months & 3 weeks of age.I just found out that 130-140 kgs is the ideal weight of gilts for breeding. Overweight na po pala sila kung ganun? What should I do doc? Should I limit their feed intake to reduce them to 140 kg? How much feed/day? I have 8 days left before flushing. How do I go on with the flushing without them gaining weight?

Sana po mapayuhan nyo ako. Thanks in advance Doc!

Do not flush na.

Just give the usual amount that you feed them.

Sort of overweight na siya.

Doc,
Actually 5 days ko na sila tinitipid sa pagkain, 1.5 kg/head/day na lng instead of 2.5 kgs...bigla po kasi akong nagpanic sa biglang bigat nila.
So okay na doc starting today ibabalik ko na sila sa usual na 2.5kgs/day each like you said. Thanks again and have a nice day doc!

Yup, and breed it if it comes to heat na.

curiuos lng po,ano po ibig sabihin nong term dto na " in heat "? at ano po ang disadvantage pag naging over weight na po ang baboy?

IN heat means that the animal will accept the boar to mate. Pigs have certain cycle that they follow.  Usually it will come to heat every 21 days. ito lang yung time na nagmamate sila.

If the animal is too fat it would be difficult for them to get pregnant.

ngandang araw po ilang buwan po pedeng pasampahan uli ang inhin pag kapanganak  ;D

Usually we wean piglets at 30 days then observe the animal for 7 days if it will return to heat.

usually 7 days after weaning it will return to heat and pwede na pasampahan.

gud am doc,

dba doc 5-7 days after weaning mag heat n xa. sa akin doc ala p rin. sept. 7 ko xa hiniwalay until now ala p. mag one month n po. ni reduced hes feed from 3kg - 2.5 now 2kgs. n lng per day.. ano po b gwin ko i cull ko n lng ito? slmat doc

Madalas po ba silang magkaproblema sa inahin na ito? Kung madalas benta na nila.
If ngayon pa lang give it another chance.
GIve na lang hormone like gonadin para maglandi ang kanilang alaga.

doc totoo po b 3days after  inject gonadin mag heat n ang sow? young sow ko ksai 2 mo. n di pa lumalandi?sakit po b ito or depende sa klse lng ng breed 1st farrow po p nya ito...

usually  3 days.

Baka  may problem siya sa matress. If mataas naman ang presyo ng baboy sa kanila. benta na lang po nila. Kasi usually papahirapan ka nya sa tagal nito maglandi.

ok n po doc nemo tn po

sir doki.,, good morning newbie here from zamboanga sibugay.. ask lang po kung ano po ba yung mga hint para malaman natin na HEAT na ang isang alaga..
thanks po

sir doki.. gud pm.. tanong ko lang po ulit.. ano po ba ang mga hints na ang binulugan na gilt ay buntis na?

After 21 and 42 days hindi siya naglandi at lumaki tiyan niya at dibdib. Most likely buntis siya

doc nemo,,

  after manganak ang baboy tama po ba na i unlimited yong feeding nya?

KUng pinakain mo siya ng lactating feeds usually  no need to give cecical na kasi yun lactating feeds is high in calcium na. Kung medyo mahina ang gatas at namimilay ang inahin then you could add cecical in the feeds nung animal.

Hindi po unlimited ang feeds nila. Usually around 4-5 kgs commercial feed intake per day sila. Again consult po yun feed manufacturer or yun distributor nung feeds for the proper feeding.

meron po kaming 2 inahin they both born last nov 30 2009, ano po bang sign ng 1st heat second heat kelan po namin sila i flushing at anong date po kaya namin sila paiinject ng pampabuntis? maraming salamat po doc first time namin kasi  mag alaga ng inahin


maraming slamat doc

Signs:
vulva swelling, frequent urination, laging nakatayo, then kapag nagback pressure kayo hindi siya umaalis sa pagkakatayo. once naging ganyan na ang animal start to count 21 days lang para sa second heat naman nito then mula sa second heat count 11 days then dun po sila mag start  ng flushing.

Once  na regular naman ang cycle nito hindi naman need na bigyan ito ng pampabuntis. Need nyo lang ng boar or AI para maservisan ito

Good day po Doc Nemo,
We bought 5 gilts from HyPig Genetics and were delivered April 14, 2010.
The gilts are 6 months when they were delivered to our farm and their weighing from 105-110 kgs..
They already had their first heat and when they had their second heat my father decided to ask for an AI service.
One gilt was given an AI last May 9. Other two gilts were given AI last May 11 and other two gilts last May 17.
The first gilt that was given an AI service suddenly has a reddish and swelling vulva yesterday and until now.
Can you please help us with this? What should be the problem with the gilt?
Thanks and God bless po..

check po nila kung ito ay magpapasampa uli malamang reheat ito.

Lagi lang po sya nakaupo.. Ayaw po niya tumayo..
Pero cge po check namin bukas if nagpapasampa..
Ibig sabihin po d nagtake ung binigay na AI?
D po kaya infection yun sobrang pagswell and reddening ng vulva nya?
A representative from UNAHCO/Pigrolac visited our farm kanina..
He said na baka po infection.. Pero d po sure..
expected date po kasi na next heat nya is on May 30 pa..
Thanks and God bless po..

Tsaka po Doc makakaapekto po ba sa piglets kung infection na po kung sakali pong magbubuntis?

Thanks again  :)

pag infection it is either di magtuloy pagbubuntis or kumonti ang anak....
NAgreheat na po ba uli. Lagpas na kasi may 30 pala.... time flies

Good day po..
inobserve naman po namin pero walang sign ng reheat..
Sana nga po pregnant na..
Antay pa po siguro ng another 21 days para po sure..

Thanks and God bless po..

wait nalang nila and hopefully magtuloy tuloy na yan

Sana nga po.. thanks po..

iwasan pong mastress......

Thanks po sa info sir pig_noypi..

God bless po..

hi doc,

tanung ku lang po, on its third heat po ba talaga dapat pasampahan ang gilt? kasi di ba po aantayin pa ang 2 heat plus 11 days para eflushing siya? kung epapa bred na po siya on the 2nd heat it means wala na pong flushing?

If second heat ka magbreed then sa first heat palang bilang ka na agad 11 days para dun ka flushing

doc paano po kung dko na iflush ung inahin kac pinasampahan ko kanina doc ung nalagyan na sya..pinapakin ko lang po sya ng breeder 2 kilos a day kukunti po ba magiging anak po pag d na iflush?kac 2nd heat na po sya kahapun kaya pinasampahan ko na po..

hindi naman ibig sabihin automatic konti ang anak niya. kadalas kasi mas madami ang inaanak kung naiflush yun animal. Kung hindi naman naflushing at maganda ang pangangatawan ng animal magiging okay din naman yun dami ng anak ng baboy.

Kadalasan kasi ang pagtatalunan dyan is around 1-2 piglets

tnx po doc more power po sana d kau magsawa sa kakasagot sa tanong ko doc bagohan po kac ako sa business na 2 target ko kac 10 inahin tapos ifafatening ko lahat ng anak nya doc kung aabot ng 100+ na fattening gud souce of income ko na po un for life  ;D

good day doc,
after 3 days po mag fullout na kami ng biik 30 days lang po, pwidi pa po bang mag flushing maski late na,ok naman ang katawan ng inahin at mga biik.please advice.
salamat doc

Pag payat po ang inahin eh kailangan i condition muna bago pabulugan, bigyan ng madaming pagkain at sapat na bitamina para pagdating ng paglalandi ay maraming itlog na ma produce para dami din ang biik na aanakin. Pag naman po maganda naman ang katawan hindi na kailangan i flushing, normal na pakain at bigyan na lang po ng vit ADE.......ganyan po ang gawa namin

good day,
thanks sa advice maganda naman ang pamgatawan ng inahin kaya lang gusto ko maka pag flushing pa para marami ang egg ng inahin pag dating ng pag landi nya pang apat na pamganak nya 10,10,14 ang itong last 12 namatay ang isa yong ang sabi ko na bigla lang namatay after naka susu wla pang 30 min.

Kung sa experience nyu eh maganda ang nagiging resulta ipagpatuloy lang po kung anuman ang mga naranasan...Experience is the best teacher!!

kung wala pong problema sa gastos (feeds) then ipagpatuloy niyo lang po tama si kuyang erick. or you can try what others do, maintenance lang binibigay after wean, sa gilts lang po kasi ginagawa ang flushing

Hello Doc,

Makitanong lng po.

Puede ba i-breed ang inahin na 3 days nag standing heat mula walay?

pwede kuyang. a productive sow could return to heat 3-10days after wean.

Ay  mali pala...pede ba ibreed ang isang inahin na 3 days before sked weaning ay nagstanding heat na..

Sorry po.

Salamat.

maganda po ba katawan ng kanilang inahin?

kung maganda pa breed nyo na.

malamang nagheat po yan dahil nacondition na siya at mahina na dumede ang mga biik, puro feeds na ba ang kinakain ng mga biik nila?....

di pa ako nakaexperience ng ganito. if ever doc, derecho walay/gestating pen na? hindi po kaya mainterupt yung pagbaba ng itlog dahil magaalala pa yung sow sa mga anak niya? or kung a.i dun muna xa sa farrowing pen magpapadede muna at walay after 3days tulad ng nabanggit ni kuyang kurt?

Salamt Doc...

Opo..3 lng kasi yong kulig niya at malakas na kumain ng feeds...mga 9.5 kls na yong pinakamalaki at 7kls yong pinakamaliit.

derecho walay and gestating pen na siya.

Usually kapag nagheat na siya kasunod na or kasabay na yun release ng egg nila...

salamat doc

good pm doc,
ask ko lang po midyo late naba kong bukas mag flushing ako tapos mga 3 days mag walay ako ng mga piggy nakalimotan kasi doc...
thanks

sa gilt lang po ginagawa ang flushing

once nanganak na hindi na po gilt ang tawag, sow na po..

sa sow mas adviseable kasi na a few days before weaning mag unti ka ng feeds. Ang reason is gusto mo saidin ang gatas ng baboy para hindi maging cause ng mastitis kapag bigla ka nagwalay at walang dumede dito. Also, gusto mo din konti na lang ang gatas ng baboy para mag mapagtuunan ng pansin ng biik ang feeds.

Saka po sa dami ng pinapakain mo sa kanila during the lactation period, mas malamang dapat na in good condition sila to the point na hindi na necessary ang flushing.

thanks doc, gets kuna baliktad pala pag ka intindi ko gilt pala is dalaga pag naka ranas na ay sow na tama po doc,at ok po doc di kuna kailangan mag flushing kasi late na at kailangan nang mag reduce ng feeding to less nalang ang gatas ng sow b4 mag walay korik po doc.

yung iba tinatawag lang nilang sow once nanganak na. iba naman sow na kagad once nakastahan/nasampahan na kahit na nagreheat pa.

babuylaber thanks diin sa info mo midyo na klarohan na ako mgayon at verythankful ako sa inyong lahat atleast nakaka intidi na ako sa forum lang na figure out kuna ang pag bababoy malaking tulong kayo sa akin at maraming salamat po ulit sa inyong walang sawang pag bigay advise sa mga minsan mga tele novila kong tanong at kwento.
at sa huli maraming salamat doc at na promote muna ako na jr. member...

Salamat Doc..

Buntis na yata to more than 21 days na mula AI..

may 42days pa kuyang, monitor niyo uli

doc
 nakunan yung sow ko na buntis ng 23 days old kaninang tanghali (June 23), ano po ba ang d best na gawin? iinject ko po ba ng pampalandi or wait ko nalng siyang maglandi ng natural? sayang 11 pa namn sana yung biik nia, paki advice naman po thanks doc

ang una siguro kuyang ay ases mo muna kung bakit na kunan, dahil sa virus, stress etc.. check din yung record kung nasunod ba yung vaccination program sa kanya.

give k nalang antibiotic dun sa nakunan then wait mo kung pag lalandi.

also follow what babuylaber suggestion.

Remember na sa pagbababuyan data management / management per see is a big factor sa pag unlad.
lahat ng details dapat laging may records.

thanks doc at babuylaber' i will follow your advice mabuhay po kayusalamt ng marami