We now await for the arrivals of a crossing,backcross breeding of some snubian does back to their saanen sire.We have retained enough daughters to end this saanen line.It is hoped with this crossing we might expect to produce some very nice F2-75% saanens or we might expect many problems.What we expect to lose with hybrid vigor we will make up with consistency.This tight breeding,in- breeding, should never be taken lightly.In this case,we are ending this sannen line and will look for another saanen line to continue with our future breeding plans of this grading up.

The early research and developement at AGF has shown that the saanen line is by all accounts the best dairy line to begin any grading up programs.The saanen is a great starting point and as other Asian countries have reported.Local graded up in country born are showing better results over imported.Again the hybrid vigor is showing signs that adapting to ones climate and management is easier with less problems over purebred imports that have been bred to adapt to the climate it was bred in.

Depending on outcome.It is hoped we will be able to provide a buck from this tight breeding to allow other small goat raisers the opportunity to use a better buck to help them get started with grading up their herd/s in this part of the rural countryside.True,it will only be a F2-75% graded up saanen buck,many areas in some of the more remote provinces do not even have this of today.It is this writers opinion,distance between the haves and the have nots is growing.Some areas of the country are still waiting for help,any help.

Not speaking for the whole country and the goat industry as a whole but this producer is moving ahead with our own plans to set a new and workable breed standard,The Philippine Standard for graded up.This standard,F3-87% graded ups could be a workable solutaion for bucks in some areas of the rural countryside.Its a small start and should be much more cost effective.The Govt. could buy local.

Mustang Sally is in private talks to buy an isalnd born American Breed Standard over Purebred Breed Standard Saanen bucking who's dam is out of the Rocky Run famous milking lines located in the Pacific Northwest.It is hoped this line will cross/blend well inot our Snubian line.The dam is from a high powered line but the sire is from a less known line.We have tracked all the lineages through the ADGA and feel this line will bring value into our future breeding plans.Rocky Run lines, helped to build the Caprikon line.

Four out of every five registered Saanen's through the ADGA are classed as American over Purebreds.People like Steven Schack and Ray Viena were the leaders of their time and responsible for American over purebreeds.

The country has enjoed many years of breeding today and not any real news coming in that purebred dairy goats are out performing crosses of dairy goats.Dairy news is rather slow coming forward.What is better understood today from early importations is adaption to environment/climate.Some have observered that hybrid vigor plays an important role in adjusting and hybrid vigor is stronger in first generation crossings over breeding purebred to purebred of the same breed.

Would appear that Alaminos is by far the most adavanced dairy operation and continues to do so.Their work with Sannens as a breed for Philippine Dairy was a long shot that paid off big time.Sometimes it pays to think outside the box and follow your beliefs.

I think for anyone entering dairy today,production is what is expected and most sought after for milking.Sometimes the gains for production may take away from conformation.Some want pretty looking goats but others feel that since they are not show goats and their milk production is their worth,why not.Some want both,production and pretty looking goats in one package.People breed for what goals they set for their type of operation.

Due to not having goats evaluated and scored,farms with records have to guess with the information at hand as to which does to be bred to which buck/s.Type evaluations is a final score given to goats that have its strenghts and weaknesses scored and graphed and with its final score.

Mustang Sally Farm is pleased with the purchase of an island born Sannen buckling out of a USA powerhouse Rocky Run Sannen line.This buckling on his dams side is all Rocky Run but on his sires side somewhat weaker but even on his sires side,known for production,milk.We still hold onto the belief that outcrossing American onto island born Australian lines should help to produce better milking goats under a tropical setting.Ability to adapt to climate first followed by milk production as long as the diet needs of goats can be met.I feel at this time that diet/s is still a work progress for many while others have met the challenge,Alaminos has solved many of their diet needs and have found success with their own pellet production.Experimenting is still needed with data collection to help others thinking about entering the business of goat farming.

We we told one cannot confine goats without dead goats.The Philippines proved this wrong.Goats can be raised confined with adapting management practices.Over the last 6-8 months we have experimented with feedlot conditions for raising meat goats at Mustang Sally on rice hull flooring.This will work but not without some problems.First,worm loads are higher requiring more deworming practices,cost more,hooves cannot wear down due to flooring and their hair coats are much dirtier,more unthrifity looking.Our plan for the next 2 weeks is to begin the pouring of cement floorings for each pen of 15 x 40 and record changes in goat health,worm loads,hooves and general appearances,cleaner hair coats.The problem with people from the west is the fact they raise livestocks on larger land holdings while those of us in the Philippines must think outside the box and experiment more to find out what will work and what will not.

We will begin  to ear tag all our goats by colour,different breeds will have different colours with their numbers and plan to ear tattoo.This is in support of a nation wide identification goat program allowing the trace from farm to markets.In the event of a major health outbreak program the Govt. will have the much needed information to isolate the farm in question and act.Gives customers the sense of assurances of quality products entering the marketplace.

I was in Alberta Canada for the last 2 months with some farms selling meat goats right from their farms over selling through sale barns.Better live prices from the farm over the marketplace at the sales barns.Still a slow industry but there is movement for new people to enter and supply meat and dairy products.The demand is there but not the supply.The other problems people were telling me was the fact that goats are hard on fences and another reason why people were not interested in this livestock.

Many have already left sheep farming due to low pricing but some were returning to sheep as prices have come up some.

The lineage for Tropical Rocky Rex:
 

Buck:  Great Adventure AJ's Jeff Ajax.  Registration numberAS1583355

 

SIRE: DOUBLE-B-ACRES MFT JEFFERY from McQuitty-Farm WMV Tribesman and Double-B- Acres MOL Twilight

 

DAM: SG G A Dairy Almond Joy from Wind Ridge Exellence and Wind Ridge Let Freedom Ring.

DOB: 05/04/2011

Bred By: Great Adventure Farm, Redmond, OR

Owned by: Daly, Donna R, Weston, OR

 

DOE:  D-D-S Chance's Gray Chase, Registration number AS1582308

 

Sire Rocky-Run Rogue's Greystone from GCH Rocky-Run LC;s Rogue and GCH Rocky-Run Mic's Shadow.

 

Dam D-D-S Chantres WL Chance from P:J's-Mountain-View War Lord and D-D-S Charm's War Chantress.

 

Born 07/23/2011

D D S Chances Grey Chase's sire
Rocky Run Greystone
ROCKY-RUN ROGUE'S GREYSTONE - S001478968 (PB Buck) 
DOB: 4/5/2009 
 

SSSS : PERFECTION SNOLAN
 

SSS : LAKE COUNTRY SNO COMPOSITION
 

SSSD : SOUTH 40 SCC CANDID CAMERA
 

SS : LAKE-COUNTRY COMPOSIT SCENERIO
 

SSDS : ELEMENTS S.T. KING SOLOMON
 

SSD : ELEMENTS S SOPHIE'S SUZANNAH
 

SSDD : ELEMENTS S.A. SOPHIE
 

S : ROCKY-RUN LC'S ROGUE
 

SDSS : TWO-CEDERS CLEO
 

SDS : GOLD-BANNER TCC JEN'S JESSIE
 

SDSD : GOLD-BANNER LONESOME DOVE
 

SD : ROCKY-RUN JESSIE'S SCAMP
 

SDDS : ROCKY-RUN TC'S SWEET INTERLUDE
 

SDD : ROCKY-RUN LUDE'S SCRUPLES
 

SDDD : ROCKY-RUN RT SHAMELESS
 

ROCKY-RUN ROGUE'S GREYSTONE
 

DSSS : CLOVERTOP'S PLOT
 

DSS : CLOVERTOP'S P. ANDREW
 

DSSD : CLOVERTOP'S LAZAR ANGELINA
 

DS : WILLOW-BROOK ANDREW'S DYNAMIC
 

DSDS : SINGING-SPRUCE MOGUL MEDALLION
 

DSD : SINGING-SPRUCE MEDALLION DYLAN
 

DSDD : SINGING-SPRUCE MAN-DOLIN
 

D : ROCKY-RUN MIC'S SHADOW
 

DDSS : LAKE-COUNTRY COMPOSIT SCENERIO
 

DDS : ROCKY-RUN LC'S ROGUE
 

DDSD : ROCKY-RUN JESSIE'S SCAMP
 

DD : ROCKY-RUN R SCARCE COMODITY
 

DDDS : GOLD-BANNER TCC JEN'S JESSIE
 

DDD : ROCKY-RUN JESSIE'S SCOUNDREL
 

DDDD : ROCKY-RUN LUDE'S SCRUPLES
 

Legend:   Polled   Black   Polled and Black

A relative found off the Sires's sire side is this nice doe found in the Lady K dairy.

Lady-K MFT Victoria
AS1330526 ~ DOB: 02/27/05
 LA: 02-06 90 VEEE
 1st place/1st udder Milking Yearling
 2006 ADGA National Show

S: +B McQuitty-Farm WMV Tribesman
SS: ++B Windsor-Manor AA Victor ~ 91 EEE
 SD: Willow Run Heartwood Bantu ~ 85 +VV+

D: CH Lady-K WRSE Secret ~ 90 VEVE
DS: *B CH Willow Run Stimulator Erik ~ 90 VEE
 DD: Lady-K MFA Promise ~ 86 +EVE

Another relative found at the Fox Trot Farm.
FOX-TROT WRKA KOOKABURRA


DSSS : MCQUITTY-FARM ALLISON'S AMMO


DSS :++B  WINDSOR-MANOR AA VICTOR


DSSD : WINDSOR-MANOR PERFECT VANILLA


DS : MCQUITTY-FARM WMV TRIBESMAN


DSDS : WILD-WILLOW PRIME HEARTWOOD


DSD : WILLOW RUN HEARTWOOD BANTU


DSDD : WILLOW RUN SULTAN BAHRAIN


D : FOX-TROT MFT KIBITZ- 92 EEEE


DDSS : SINGING-SPRUCE VORTEX PARLANCE


DDS : THE PORTER'S WAYLON J


DDSD : DANDY-LINE KHON VIARA


DD : GCH CYPRESS VALLEY KYLA CANDIDA -92 EEEE


DDDS : SINGING-SPRUCE LIA VINCAVEC


DDD : THE L&K FARMS WYNONA'S IRIS


DDDD : THE L&K FARMS WEISS'S WYNONA

Other relatives found at the Kickadee Hills Farm besides Lady K and Fox Trot Farms.We are keeping our fingers crossed that this genetic combination is going to become a powerhouse behind our cross/hybrid Sannen breeding program for the coming years.

In the beginning I thought that the sire to our Sannen buckling was a weak link while on his dams side was top of the game with Rocky Run in the lineage.After much researching and talking with others I have found that WMV Tribesman has many daughters in USA herds that have gone on to become winners.This gives us a much better understanding of what we can expect once we start using him in our graded up breeding program using experimential Sannen cross/hybrid does.Appeared to us many years ago that cross/hybrids seem to adapt better to climate over many of the purebreds and slowly grading up allows us to take advantage of adapting to change and using the very best purebred buck/s for production with lactation.This new bloodline is known for production and production is where this phrase will lead us into.Large farms with the known breeders have the luxury of the numbers game.Having more than one bloodline to experiment with is only a matter of time before one or more bloodlines hits the right combination and something of outstanding value shows up while for us smaller operations having the ability to locate and buy the right bloodlines is more so of a gamble.The end is the same for both,produce something of outstanding value, generation to generation.

Powerhouse of genetics behind this buckling lineage.

MCQUITTY-FARM WMV TRIBESMAN - S001293393 (AM Buck) 
DOB: 2/27/2004 
 

SSSS : COYOTEVILLE'S LOTHARIO
 

SSS : GOLD-LOBO WESTFORK'S JAKE
 

SSSD : WASHOE-ZEPHYR CAMELOT JULEP
 

SS : MCQUITTY-FARM ALLISON'S AMMO
 

SSDS : MCQUITTY-FARM ZINGER
 

SSD : MCQUITTY-FARM ALLISON
 

SSDD : MCQUITTY FARM ALICE
 

S : WINDSOR-MANOR AA VICTOR
 

SDSS : WSU/VMP FANDANGO
 

SDS : TIM-TAM PERFECT TIMING
 

SDSD : TIM TAM PERFECT REASON
 

SD : WINDSOR-MANOR PERFECT VANILLA
 

SDDS : COMPANEROS JESTER CHALLENGER
 

SDD : WINDSOR MANOR CJC VERONICA
 

SDDD : WINDSOR MANOR STYLISH VANESSA
 

MCQUITTY-FARM WMV TRIBESMAN
 

DSSS : COMPANEROS HALLELUJAH STANDARD
 

DSS : CHERRYPINES STANDARD PRIME
 

DSSD : CHERRYPINES DOOR PRIZE
 

DS : WILD-WILLOW PRIME HEARTWOOD
 

DSDS : CHIMERICAL MIS METERIOR
 

DSD : WILD-WILLOW CHIMMET HANNAH
 

DSDD : WILD WILLOW DEBUT HONEY
 

D : WILLOW RUN HEARTWOOD BANTU
 

DDSS : WILLOW RUN MCBAIN MENTOR
 

DDS : MCQUITTY-FARM SULTAN
 

DDSD : KING-FARM FOAMY SUDZ
 

DD : WILLOW RUN SULTAN BAHRAIN
 

DDDS : WSU/VMP MCKINLEY
 

DDD : WILLOW RUN MCKINLEY BASIA
 

Another year here and another year to follow.Dairy milk production still seems to be front and centre over meat goats but any dairy goats not capable s milking goats can be bred or turned into meat goats.The main stumbling block I see with dairy goats at this time is still the question of consistency from generation to generation.Known breeders with milking goats in the top ten with the ADGA have consistency for production generation after generation.This is only a matter of time and with selective breeding to supply quality breeding does with known consistency and with documented data showing relatives as to same.Producers looking for quality stocks will want data to prove or disprove milking abilities.Serious producers do not want to waste their time on the word of the breeder that he/she breeds milking goats but has no known records to back any claim.Any goat that kids,milks but its the quantity that counts providing the diet meets the output.Any dairy goat that costs the producer more to feed than milk given, will be out of business in short order.

Noah Goddard of Goddard Farm out of Kansas,USA, a well known American Nubian breeder with consistent top ten milking does, year in and year out has been working behind the scene in the Philippines with consulting advice and also private export/imports to help get the Philippine dairy industry up and going.Noah has stated, with the right dairy buck,Philippines could see real promise in 3 generations for dairy.Knowing which bloodlines would have the best chances for success comes from those who are in the top ten year in and year out and with milk records to prove so.These breeding stocks do not come by cheap as their demand sets their worth.

I guess the industry is still in the business of breeding while fattening has taken a back seat.Dairy is front and centre with many breeding for dairy.Having a selection of stocks to choose from is great but its hard to judge the milkability without PTAs and PTIs and knowing reliability for any bucks.Breeding in itself is always a gamble and if the goat is not having its nutritional needs met then it cannot produce well enough to pay for its upkeep.I think some of the reasons for poor perform reported by some is just a case of not meeting the needs of the goat.To adapt,does must settle,breed and kid and if she does this then she is adapting to change, but the old saying goes,your goats will only be as good as the food they are eating.Forages is still a learning game as goats imported from America have been designed to perform on hay and alfalfa which goats do not eat in the tropics.Finding something to replace hay/alfalfa is still a work in progress but some have solved this problem with forages they are growing like indigo and a few others.Interesting to follow the dairy industry as it grows but help to the rural countryside is slow in coming.

A doe rated as a *8 should in fact produce daughters that milk 8lbs over the average and the more bucks in herds, makes for more accurate reliability.Those who have imported on their own have the information at hand to make decisions as to which goat to breed to which goat.Due to our cross/hybrid breeding program we see a lot less consistency but greater hybrid vigor which we feel is the beginning for adapting to change.The purist will always favor the purebreeds over crosses but the mavericks will favor the crosses over the purebreeds or breed both.

ADGA PERFORMANCE LEADERS: NUBIAN - VOLUME #59 2012
 



  REG# DOE AGE DIM MILK F P OWNER BREEDER
MILK PRODUCTION
1 PN1463733 GODDARD FARM MISTY 4*M 4-00 305 3710 133 131 GODDARD, NOAH L & SUE A GODDARD, NOAH L & SUE A
2 PN1488735 SGCH BLISSBERRY ROCK MY WORLD 3*M 3-00 305 3640 168 145 KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA
3 PN1335449 GODDARD FARM RASPBERRY 3*M 6-11 305 3620 159 137 GODDARD, NOAH L & SUE A GODDARD, NOAH L & SUE A
4 PN1437214 SG 2-G FARM BILOXI RIVER ISABELLE 4*M 3-10 305 3580 135 116 COOPER, JANET L COOPER, JANET L
5 PN1463732 GODDARD FARM BLUSHING PENNY 3*M 4-01 305 3570 138 129 GODDARD, NOAH L & SUE A GODDARD, NOAH L & SUE A
6 PN1511121 SGCH BLISSBERRY ROCKIN' GOOD TIME 3*M 2-01 293 3370 162 129 KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA
7 PN1411160 GCH BLISSBERRY J ALIBI 4*M 5-00 297 3360 152 127 KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA
8 PN1481379 SGCH BLISSBERRY MW VALENTINA 6*M 3-00 305 3330 153 132 KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA
9 PN1415308 GCH BLISSBERRY FM VERA CRUZ 11*M 4-11 305 3280 147 123 KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA
10 PN1538639 SG 2-G FARM CA RAPHAEL 3*M 1-10 291 3240 141 111 COOPER, JANET L COOPER, JANET L
RECORDED GRADE
1 GN1416005 SG LAND OF HAVILAH SONADOR 1*M 4-11 294 2580 79 89 MILLER, KRISTIE MILLER, KRISTIE
2 GN1532074 SG LAND OF HAVILAH DREAMOFLIBERTY 2*M 1-11 305 2160 81 90 MILLER, KRISTIE MILLER, KRISTIE
BUTTERFAT PRODUCTION
1 PN1488735 SGCH BLISSBERRY ROCK MY WORLD 3*M 3-00 305 3640 168 5 KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA
2 PN1511121 SGCH BLISSBERRY ROCKIN' GOOD TIME 3*M 2-01 293 3370 162 5 KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA
3 PN1335449 GODDARD FARM RASPBERRY 3*M 6-11 305 3620 159 4 GODDARD, NOAH L & SUE A GODDARD, NOAH L & SUE A
3 PN1480474 SG LOT-O-PINES DELIGHT 4*M 3-11 305 3160 159 5 PROBERT FAMILY, SCOTT STEINER, JENNIFER
5 PN1481379 SGCH BLISSBERRY MW VALENTINA 6*M 3-00 305 3330 153 5 KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA
6 PN1411160 GCH BLISSBERRY J ALIBI 4*M 5-00 297 3360 152 5 KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA
6 PN1500406 GODDARD FARM SPARKLE 5*M 3-03 305 3180 152 5 GODDARD, NOAH L & SUE A GODDARD, NOAH L & SUE A
6 PN1480089 GCH LAKESHORE MIRA'S EASTER LILY 6*M 2-10 305 3110 152 5 TREDWAY-CARTER, MEGAN TREDWAY-CARTER, MEGAN
9 PN1415308 GCH BLISSBERRY FM VERA CRUZ 11*M 4-11 305 3280 147 5 KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA
10 PN1541082 SG PENNYROYAL PALOMA 4*M 1-09 305 2830 146 5 CHANTERELLE, ELLEN CHANTERELLE, ELLEN
RECORDED GRADE
1 GN1532074 SG LAND OF HAVILAH DREAMOFLIBERTY 2*M 1-11 305 2160 81 4 MILLER, KRISTIE MILLER, KRISTIE
2 GN1416005 SG LAND OF HAVILAH SONADOR 1*M 4-11 294 2580 79 3 MILLER, KRISTIE MILLER, KRISTIE
PROTEIN PRODUCTION
1 PN1488735 SGCH BLISSBERRY ROCK MY WORLD 3*M 3-00 305 3640 145 4 KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA
2 PN1335449 GODDARD FARM RASPBERRY 3*M 6-11 305 3620 137 4 GODDARD, NOAH L & SUE A GODDARD, NOAH L & SUE A
3 PN1481379 SGCH BLISSBERRY MW VALENTINA 6*M 3-00 305 3330 132 4 KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA
4 PN1463733 GODDARD FARM MISTY 4*M 4-00 305 3710 131 4 GODDARD, NOAH L & SUE A GODDARD, NOAH L & SUE A
5 PN1463732 GODDARD FARM BLUSHING PENNY 3*M 4-01 305 3570 129 4 GODDARD, NOAH L & SUE A GODDARD, NOAH L & SUE A
5 PN1511121 SGCH BLISSBERRY ROCKIN' GOOD TIME 3*M 2-01 293 3370 129 4 KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA
7 PN1411160 GCH BLISSBERRY J ALIBI 4*M 5-00 297 3360 127 4 KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA
8 PN1415308 GCH BLISSBERRY FM VERA CRUZ 11*M 4-11 305 3280 123 4 KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA
8 PN1410730 GCH BLISSBERRY SM VICTORIOUS 3*M 4-11 293 3150 123 4 KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA KOEHN-WALBERG, SARA
10 PN1500406 GODDARD FARM SPARKLE 5*M 3-03 305 3180 122 4 GODDARD, NOAH L & SUE A GODDARD, NOAH L & SUE A
RECORDED GRADE
1 GN1532074 SG LAND OF HAVILAH DREAMOFLIBERTY 2*M 1-11 305 2160 90 4 MILLER, KRISTIE MILLER, KRISTIE
2 GN1416005 SG LAND OF HAVILAH SONADOR 1*M 4-11 294 2580 89 3 MILLER, KRISTIE MILLER, KRISTIE

My friends the Goddards have 4 does in the top ten this year for 2012.The Goddards do private exporting to Asia.

ADGA PERFORMANCE LEADERS: SAANEN - VOLUME #59 2012
 



  REG# DOE AGE DIM MILK F P OWNER BREEDER
MILK PRODUCTION
1 AS1411192 SG TRES AMIGO ALFONSO FENOM 1*M 4-11 305 5490 148 147 HAASS, LEE & JEANETTE ZIMMERMAN, RALPH & JOEL SMITH & WILL IAGER
2 AS1472605 BAR NONE YESMAN'S WANDA 1*M 2-11 305 4510 136 118 MALAS, DEBORAH WALTERS, ROBIN L
3 AS1450497 SG CAPRIKORN RV YGERNE 12*M 3-11 269 4430 129 120 CAPRIKORN FARMS CAPRIKORN FARMS
4 AS1484252 SG SNOWFLAKE TRISTAN'S POLLY 2*M 2-09 305 4290 109 114 SNOWFLAKE SNOWFLAKE
5 AS1596114 SG COMPANEROS ECLIPSE VENICE 4*M 2-01 305 4260 137 124 COMPANEROS DAIRY GOATS COMPANEROS DAIRY GOATS
6 AS1594809 SG KAPRA VISTA SEE N'S BELIEVE N 10*M 1-10 305 4160 145 125 HAASS, LEE & JEANETTE HAASS, LEE & JEANETTE
7 AS1419733 SGCH DES-RUHIGESTELLE RIAH 9*M 4-11 305 4060 126 110 ACTON, MRS FERN L ACTON, MRS FERN L
8 AS1516686 SG CAPRIKORN SNOW AQUAGIRL 4*M 1-10 305 4050 123 106 CAPRIKORN FARMS CAPRIKORN FARMS
9 AS1522257 SG KAPRA VISTA S NOT A WHISPER 5*M 3-09 305 4010 103 111 HAASS, LEE & JEANETTE HAASS, LEE & JEANETTE
10 AS1509354 SG CAPRIKORN RENOV'S ZTARGATE 2*M 2-09 281 3990 122 103 CAPRIKORN FARMS CAPRIKORN FARMS
RECORDED GRADE
1 GS1431195 SGCH CAPRIKORN WEALTH XTORT 2*M 4-11 272 4190 134 108 CAPRIKORN FARMS CAPRIKORN FARMS
2 GS1521691 ELDER CREEK PRINCESS GRACE 1*M 3-00 265 2670 82 78 GREGG, ANGELIA BEBB, REBECCA & KATHERINE
BUTTERFAT PRODUCTION
1 AS1556970 SG WHEY-TO-GO TITANIA'S TRILLIUM 2*M 1-02 305 3480 159 5 O'CONNOR, RITA MAE O'CONNOR, RITA MAE
2 AS1411192 SG TRES AMIGO ALFONSO FENOM 1*M 4-11 305 5490 148 3 HAASS, LEE & JEANETTE ZIMMERMAN, RALPH & JOEL SMITH & WILL IAGER
3 AS1594809 SG KAPRA VISTA SEE N'S BELIEVE N 10*M 1-10 305 4160 145 4 HAASS, LEE & JEANETTE HAASS, LEE & JEANETTE
4 AS1504591 SG CAPRIKORN YELSON MEADOW ZEPHYR 11*M 3-00 305 3830 140 4 CAPRIKORN FARMS CAPRIKORN FARMS
5 AS1596114 SG COMPANEROS ECLIPSE VENICE 4*M 2-01 305 4260 137 3 COMPANEROS DAIRY GOATS COMPANEROS DAIRY GOATS
6 AS1472605 BAR NONE YESMAN'S WANDA 1*M 2-11 305 4510 136 3 MALAS, DEBORAH WALTERS, ROBIN L
7 AS1395659 SGCH COMPANEROS STAND OUT CAPRICE 7*M 6-02 305 3880 134 4 COMPANEROS DAIRY GOATS COMPANEROS DAIRY GOATS
8 AS1560476 SG COMPANEROS FOXY JEM 10*M 1-11 305 3700 131 4 COMPANEROS DAIRY GOATS COMPANEROS DAIRY GOATS
9 AS1450497 SG CAPRIKORN RV YGERNE 12*M 3-11 269 4430 129 3 CAPRIKORN FARMS CAPRIKORN FARMS
10 AS1419733 SGCH DES-RUHIGESTELLE RIAH 9*M 4-11 305 4060 126 3 ACTON, MRS FERN L ACTON, MRS FERN L
10 AS1510198 SG CAPRIKORN ZURICH AMBER 6*M 1-10 305 3800 126 3 CAPRIKORN FARMS CAPRIKORN FARMS
RECORDED GRADE
1 GS1431195 SGCH CAPRIKORN WEALTH XTORT 2*M 4-11 272 4190 134 3 CAPRIKORN FARMS CAPRIKORN FARMS
2 GS1521691 ELDER CREEK PRINCESS GRACE 1*M 3-00 265 2670 82 3 GREGG, ANGELIA BEBB, REBECCA & KATHERINE
PROTEIN PRODUCTION
1 AS1411192 SG TRES AMIGO ALFONSO FENOM 1*M 4-11 305 5490 147 3 HAASS, LEE & JEANETTE ZIMMERMAN, RALPH & JOEL SMITH & WILL IAGER
2 AS1594809 SG KAPRA VISTA SEE N'S BELIEVE N 10*M 1-10 305 4160 125 3 HAASS, LEE & JEANETTE HAASS, LEE & JEANETTE
3 AS1596114 SG COMPANEROS ECLIPSE VENICE 4*M 2-01 305 4260 124 3 COMPANEROS DAIRY GOATS COMPANEROS DAIRY GOATS
4 AS1450497 SG CAPRIKORN RV YGERNE 12*M 3-11 269 4430 120 3 CAPRIKORN FARMS CAPRIKORN FARMS
5 AS1472605 BAR NONE YESMAN'S WANDA 1*M 2-11 305 4510 118 3 MALAS, DEBORAH WALTERS, ROBIN L
6 AS1484252 SG SNOWFLAKE TRISTAN'S POLLY 2*M 2-09 305 4290 114 3 SNOWFLAKE SNOWFLAKE
6 AS1504591 SG CAPRIKORN YELSON MEADOW ZEPHYR 11*M 3-00 305 3830 114 3 CAPRIKORN FARMS CAPRIKORN FARMS
8 AS1556970 SG WHEY-TO-GO TITANIA'S TRILLIUM 2*M 1-02 305 3480 112 3 O'CONNOR, RITA MAE O'CONNOR, RITA MAE
10 AS1522257 SG KAPRA VISTA S NOT A WHISPER 5*M 3-09 305 4010 111 3 HAASS, LEE & JEANETTE HAASS, LEE & JEANETTE
10 AS1560476 SG COMPANEROS FOXY JEM 10*M 1-11 305 3700 111 3 COMPANEROS DAIRY GOATS COMPANEROS DAIRY GOATS
RECORDED GRADE
1 GS1431195 SGCH CAPRIKORN WEALTH XTORT 2*M 4-11 272 4190 108 3 CAPRIKORN FARMS CAPRIKORN FARMS
2 GS1521691 ELDER CREEK PRINCESS GRACE 1*M 3-00 265 2670 78 3 GREGG, ANGELIA BEBB, REBECCA & KATHERINE

And congratulations to the O’Connors for #1 in B.F.! They were on this list and contributed to our b.f.% discussion.

“Whey to Go!”

 Love to all,

 Scott Hoyman

 CAPRIKORN SAANENS

 
ADGA PERFORMANCE LEADERS: ALPINE - VOLUME #59- 2012
 



  REG# DOE AGE DIM MILK F P OWNER BREEDER
MILK PRODUCTION
1 AA1485031* SHINING-MOON ZINGER DANCER 1*M 3-00 305 5280 149 154 COLFAX, MICKI COLFAX, MICKI
2 AA1420086* SG CHAIREIN VAN SHIRLEY 1*M 4-10 301 5150 153 141 DE MELLO, TONY DE MELLO, TONY & JANET
3 AA1420087* SGCH CHAIREIN VAN BRIE 1*M 4-10 292 5070 149 144 DE MELLO, TONY DE MELLO, TONY & JANET
4 AA1485349* SG CITHERIA NVXENITH FULCRUM 6*M 3-11 305 4840 178 129 SKILLMAN DVM, ROBIN L SKILLMAN DVM, ROBIN L
5 AA1445011 SG SOLDIER-MTN PVRA PENSIVE 2*M 3-10 305 4820 170 124 STAMPKE, TRACY STAMPKE, TRACY
6 PA1513511 SG CITHERIA NVXENITH OPERA 10*M 2-11 305 4550 125 112 SKILLMAN DVM, ROBIN L SKILLMAN DVM, ROBIN L
7 AA1430349 BETHEL MUR RAY ROCHELLE 5*M 4-09 305 4530 131 110 HOSTETLER, MARK & GWEN HOSTETLER, MARK & GWEN
8 AA1491237 BEARLY ASHBY NESSE 3*M 2-09 294 4440 152 132 RUPCHIS, BENJAMIN ANDREW RUPCHIS, BENJAMIN ANDREW
9 AA1512466 SG CITHERIA PENCHANT SELKIE 7*M 3-11 305 4420 165 117 SKILLMAN DVM, ROBIN L SKILLMAN DVM, ROBIN L
10 AA1465604 BETHEL MUR RAY RABBIT 5*M 3-11 305 4400 123 100 HOSTETLER, MARK & GWEN HOSTETLER, MARK & GWEN
BUTTERFAT PRODUCTION
1 AA1485349 SG CITHERIA NVXENITH FULCRUM 6*M 3-11 305 4840 178 4 SKILLMAN DVM, ROBIN L SKILLMAN DVM, ROBIN L
2 AA1445011 SG SOLDIER-MTN PVRA PENSIVE 2*M 3-10 305 4820 170 4 STAMPKE, TRACY STAMPKE, TRACY
3 AA1512466 SG CITHERIA PENCHANT SELKIE 7*M 3-11 305 4420 165 4 SKILLMAN DVM, ROBIN L SKILLMAN DVM, ROBIN L
4 AA1483995 SG TEMPO AQUILA FUSILLI 6*M 3-03 305 4100 159 4 BICE, SCOTT MICHAEL ACTON DVM, LAUREN L
4 AA1395303 SGCH PJ-BAILEYS' SULTEN ARABELLA 5*M 5-10 305 3650 159 4 SUTTON, AMY BAILEY & FAMILY, PATRICIA & JOHN
6 AA1505291* ANTIQUITY SR ANNABELLE 11*M 2-00 305 3075 158 5 GROSSMAN, RICHARD GROSSMAN, RICHARD
7 AA1427827 SGCH REDWOOD HILLS EMBER SAFFRON 11*M 5-11 305 3740 154 4 BICE, JENNIFER LYNN BICE, JENNIFER LYNN
8 AA1420086 SG CHAIREIN VAN SHIRLEY 1*M 4-10 301 5150 153 3 DE MELLO, TONY DE MELLO, TONY & JANET
10 PA1474953 SG KICKAPOO-VALLEY JAGGED ZEHAVA 2*M 2-10 305 4290 153 4 SUNRISE FARM JODLOWSKI, KENYON
10 AA1526438 CHAIREIN YANKEE HAZEL 4*M 2-00 292 3940 153 4 DE MELLO, TONY DE MELLO, TONY
PROTEIN PRODUCTION
1 AA1485031 SHINING-MOON ZINGER DANCER 1*M 3-00 305 5280 154 3 COLFAX, MICKI COLFAX, MICKI
2 AA1420087 SGCH CHAIREIN VAN BRIE 1*M 4-10 292 5070 144 3 DE MELLO, TONY DE MELLO, TONY & JANET
3 AA1420086 SG CHAIREIN VAN SHIRLEY 1*M 4-10 301 5150 141 3 DE MELLO, TONY DE MELLO, TONY & JANET
4 AA1526438 CHAIREIN YANKEE HAZEL 4*M 2-00 292 3940 135 3 DE MELLO, TONY DE MELLO, TONY
5 AA1491237 BEARLY ASHBY NESSE 3*M 2-09 294 4440 132 3 RUPCHIS, BENJAMIN ANDREW RUPCHIS, BENJAMIN ANDREW
6 AA1520047 SHINING-MOON AVANT GARDE 5*M 1-10 305 4330 131 3 COLFAX, MICKI COLFAX, MICKI
7 AA1381871 CHAIREIN SHOWMAN'S PEARL 3*M 5-11 296 4380 130 3 DE MELLO, TONY DE MELLO, TONY & JANET
8 AA1485349 SG CITHERIA NVXENITH FULCRUM 6*M 3-11 305 4840 129 3 SKILLMAN DVM, ROBIN L SKILLMAN DVM, ROBIN L
8 AA1427827 SGCH REDWOOD HILLS EMBER SAFFRON 11*M 5-11 305 3740 129 3 BICE, JENNIFER LYNN BICE, JENNIFER LYNN
10 AA1445011 SG SOLDIER-MTN PVRA PENSIVE 2*M 3-10 305 4820 124 3 STAMPKE, TRACY STAMPKE, TRACY

What is the state of meat goat production in country as of today?Is there a meat goat industry?These are good questions to be asking.One reason for the lack of information is the social media sites where anyone can open their own facebook and decide not to belong to a site of like minded people where information can be shared by all,good,bad or in the middle.Should anyone or farm large enough with enough followers and they decide to move away from the meat side and enter the dairy side then you have those who will follow suit and the meat side slides into decline with very little interest for others to pick up the slack and also many I am in touch with,tells me their meat operation is not profitable on its own.Those who cannot make money from meat goats will choose another avenue that looks more promising.Dairy seems to be front and centre while meat goats are on a decline.

The current pricing for live meat goats on the hoof does not add to ones bottom line and with dairy there is always the milk that can be sold as secondary.The offsprings from dairy goats are much more in demand today over breeds like the boers which seems to me has ran its coarse and with declining demand leads to declining interesting in a meat goat operation.Boers have not entered the slaughter lines in any real numbers as of yet.Meat goat production has a lot of work ahead of itself before others may wish to join in.I see many people leaving the meat goat industry today.The state of the goat industry today is really the unknown factor.Feed costs are always a major factor when it comes to any livestocks for slaughter and goats are no different.

The current meat goat industry in the Philippines offers numerous opportunities for both the sale of goat meat and meat goat breeding stock.Whether you are considering entering this industry or have been in this industry for sometime,one very important question must be asked.Can I make money from my meat goats?

 

Unless someone decides to own goats purely as a hobby and profit is of no concern,profitibility is the main key to any sustainable operation.

 

There are numerous variables that will affect profit potential.Where do I live?How far are you from a market for your producrt,do you produce or buy your feed?Are your goats on pasture or under cut and carry or dry lotted?What is the reproductive performance of your does?What is the average price you can expect to receive for your goats?Remember what works well for producer A and creates a profit does not mean the same will hold true for producer B.More or less simply put,profitability is a matter of management and each individual circumstances.

 

I remember once reading that identifies four fundamental conditions for success in a livestock enterprise:

-must have a viable market for your product.

-market price must exceed cost of production.

-the goal for reproductive performance is the production of at least one merchandisable unit per exposed female.The best case goal for an extensive system is,1.5 kids weaned for every doe bred.

-match your genetic potential for growth with productivity of your given environment.

 

So,how does someone know if there is a potential for profit or if you are making a profit?The anser is simple,know your cost of production.Cost of production is the theory that the price of an object or condition is determined by the sum of the cost of the resources that went into making it.For meat goat production,this includes everything from the average sale price of your stock to the average annual death rate of your animals.Cost of salt,minerals,depreciation on your equipment and facilities,interest cost on the monies you poured into your operation and really everything else in between.

Well I did write when the news of the goat imports were published that I hoped it would not turn into another sham as in the hog and fertilizer scams in years gone by.Nothing has changed.

It becomes very easy for those on the receiving end who were given free goats to come out and support the agriculture department,why would you not,you got something for free???All those who thought help was coming and have waited and waited,no help coming.Those who spent the money to buy cars and other luxury items for themselves should be held accountable for their actions.A complete inquiry should be held to look into those with large numbers of goats on their farms as to why would they need more free goats over those who could have really used these goat genetics and never saw a single goat and will never see any goats coming their way as usual.

It becomes hard to support any industry that is involved in so much bad news coming and for the goat industry itself.The industry has become just another joke,worldwide.

My friend Noah Goddard of Goddard's farm has informed me that someone down the road from our farm in Region 7 of Negros Oriental is buying 2 Nubian goats from him.One is a buckling and the other a doeling to arrive sometime in 2014.Noah's goats are documented in the ADGA's list of top ten milkers year to year and many other known US breeders confide in him for advice.Noah also sits on the ADGA board.Noah is well known in the dairy goat world and exports worldwide his sought after genetics and has spent two weeks in the Philippines visiting different goat farms to see for himself what is needed and what might work and what may not work.No other US breeder has made the visit and he plans to visit Negros Oriental sometime in the future.

This will put some of the most powerful lines for the Nubian breed in Negros Oriental.Out of top ten milkers,CAE and Cl free and G6S normal by testing from the lab in Texas.Some of the USA Nubians imported are out of known G6S carrier herds and never tested to prove normal over carrier and when two carriers mate,produce affected and problems will show up.When one carrier is mated to a normal,will produce 25% carriers.

This district in Negros Oriental was left out of any goat import program and private parties are having to do their own search for the much needed genetics.Lines out of Rocky Run for Sannen was bought by Mustang Sally Farm and another Sannen line is in the works for the future.This more than proves that there is an interest to get a goat industry up and running in the beautiful rural countryside without any Govt. help.

We have had lady luck on our side again.A friend up north was lucky enough to import a Nubian buckling out of the USA that was an AI directly off the great Frosty Marvin himself the other year and now has a nice light coloured buckling for us to ship to Mustang Sally Farm at about the end of Dec,2013.Frosty himself was known to make improvements in does from the very poorest to the very finest.This makes this line very high profile and the only major direct link back to Frosty Marvin himself.True we have for the most part given up on purebred Nubians this new line will help us with our hybrid crossings.

I have been asked many times.If you specialize in hybridcrosses are they not of less value over the purebreds.Any bucks,yes, to a great degree.There will always be one or two bucklings that show promise for improvements over going to the meat market.Good milking does will always hold value.People choose what's in the best interest for their business model,most like the purebreds over the crosses.Personal choice to make.Depends on your goals.

2013 helped us to secure two island born high profile bloodlines,one Saanen and the other to come, a Nubian.The sad part of this story is the fact we hold the only surviving buckling Saanen island born from that imported herd.The sire and five does and all the bucklings have since died.Not sure what two does are left but no buck to continue the line,sad to see high profile lines like these disappear never to be regained.

Frosty himself was never tested for G6S but because of the numbers of his offsprings in herds today,appears normal off Frosty himself but not to say if he was ever bred to a carrier/s does then there would be a 25% chance for carriers to be born.