Why do native hogs taste better?

[nemo]

You could always hear that native hog taste better or different from commercial farm.

So, why is it?

One factor is diet. natives eats what their body needs. You can see them unroots plants etc. because they are looking for foods that are necessary to their needs.

Some natives are confined and given scraps yet they taste also good. They taste good because they can move and roam freely. When a animal moves regularly or exercise regularly its muscle and fats are marbling.  Marbling means in a simple english they have alternating fats and muscle. This alternating fats and muscle creates a good flavor for the animal. Fats and oil are sources of flavor for plants and animal.

Commercial farms create this marbling effect by using meat enhancer in their feed.

[mikey]

Doc,so this, so called SECRET FORMULA,is really a meat enhancer??When you say enhancer,do you mean a tenderizer,like papaya??or something one buys and adds to the feed.
Good Day:
mikey Region 7 Independant

[doncorleone]

You could always hear that native hog taste better or different from commercial farm.

So, why is it?

One factor is diet. natives eats what their body needs. You can see them unroots plants etc. because they are looking for foods that are necessary to their needs.

Some natives are confined and given scraps yet they taste also good. They taste good because they can move and roam freely. When a animal moves regularly or exercise regularly its muscle and fats are marbling.  Marbling means in a simple english they have alternating fats and muscle. This alternating fats and muscle creates a good flavor for the animal. Fats and oil are sources of flavor for plants and animal.

Commercial farms create this marbling effect by using meat enhancer in their feed.

If you want your hog taste like native pig.
1. Diet - What are my hog's body needs? What kind of CHO, CHON, FAT? 
2. Move and roam freely - Maybe make big pen for fattening like HOOP BARN 
3. Fats and oil are sources of flavor - Should i give nuts or palm oil to my hogs? 
4. Using meat enhancer to the feed - Should i add a tenderizer like McCormic?

[nemo]

Doc,so this, so called SECRET FORMULA,is really a meat enhancer??When you say enhancer,do you mean a tenderizer,like papaya??or something one buys and adds to the feed.
Good Day:
mikey Region 7 Independant

Every farm have a secret formula/ way in rearing their animal. What i said is only some ways to make your animals meat more tender or tastier.

Meat enhancers are commercially available feed additives.

If you want your hog taste like native pig.
1. Diet - What are my hog's body needs? What kind of CHO, CHON, FAT? 
2. Move and roam freely - Maybe make big pen for fattening like HOOP BARN 
3. Fats and oil are sources of flavor - Should i give nuts or palm oil to my hogs? 
4. Using meat enhancer to the feed - Should i add a tenderizer like McCormic?

what hog body needs. this is difficult to assess because only the animal can know this. They will eat what  their body dictates. This is why native has an advantage. Because they roam freely they can look or choose the food their body dictates to eat. Unlike commercial farm that we give them what science assumes they need at that particular stage.

HAving a bigger space is an advantage and if the flooring is dirt/ soil it would add to the advantage. althought the drawback is the problem with sanitation and worms.

No need to give nuts or palm oil. The fat in the body of the animal is a result from the digestion of the food they eat. they metabolized it to be fats, muscle, hormones etc.

Mccormic is for the kitchen use.  It will add flavor to the pork upon cooking. meat enhancer here is a feed additive for the animal.

There are more possible ways to make the animal meat taste better this is just some.

[mikey]

Doc,okay back to the feeds,one can buy and add a additive to their feed.Corn is oily,and one of the main feedstufs in commercial hog chow.Does breed not also play a part in all of this??I always thought the native hog had more back fat than the whites.Commercial operations,squeeze as much space as possible,our hogs are like operations here,hogs side by side,except when to farrow,limited space to maximum output.I will admit when hogs get stressed they tend to bite the metal bars.Planning on letting the natives go free range,only found 1 male so far.Sometimes outside influences,has a greater affect on the local economy than one expected.I doubt very much if consumers in Manila,know which hogs come from lets say farmer A,and our farm,even if farmer A has better tasting hogs than ours.Livestock is bought,sold,slaughtered,then cut up.It is possible,that the difference,if more local or regional has a greater influence on ones sales.Commercial farms are business people first,farmers second.The only thing that really counts is sales,sales,sales at the best possible price and the maximum profit,at the lowest possible production cost(s).Keeping informed about global economics and national economics,gives some an edge.Knowing what in/out whats hot/not (priceless).Understand your consumer.Govt. data shows in the last few years commercial farms are on the rise.The Philippines is getting foreign capital and better tech.
Good Day.
mikey,Region 7 Independant

[mr hog]

Very well said mikey!I see your coming around to be a hog farmer hehe

[Slyfox]

Bakit mas masarap ang native na baboy

dahil sa lamaw feed yan ang sekreto ng native. completo na kasi sa  lamas at yan ang totoo. AT sino naman nag modify ng pagkain ng baboy natin hindi po ba yan mga dayohan na yan tapos ngayon sasabihin pangit ang lasa ng commercial pig.aba niloloko na pala tayong mga pinoy walanghiya yan mga dayohan na yan. sino may gusto lamaw formula?


sino kaya maniniwala sa phil govt data? 

[doncorleone]

Bakit mas masarap ang native na baboy

dahil sa lamaw feed yan ang sekreto ng native. completo na kasi sa  lamas at yan ang totoo. AT sino naman nag modify ng pagkain ng baboy natin hindi po ba yan mga dayohan na yan tapos ngayon sasabihin pangit ang lasa ng commercial pig.aba niloloko na pala tayong mga pinoy walanghiya yan mga dayohan na yan. sino may gusto lamaw formula?


sino kaya maniniwala sa phil govt data? 

Slyfox, ang ibig mo ba sabihin para sumarap ang alaga nating baboy ay haluan ng lamaw ang feeds na ibibigay sa baboy o gawing meryenda na lang ng baboy ang lamaw? 

[Slyfox]

thats what backyard raiser doing before.

[nemo]

Doc,okay back to the feeds,one can buy and add a additive to their feed.Corn is oily,and one of the main feedstufs in commercial hog chow.Does breed not also play a part in all of this??I always thought the native hog had more back fat than the whites.Commercial operations,squeeze as much space as possible,our hogs are like operations here,hogs side by side,except when to farrow,limited space to maximum output.I will admit when hogs get stressed they tend to bite the metal bars.Planning on letting the natives go free range,only found 1 male so far.Sometimes outside influences,has a greater affect on the local economy than one expected.I doubt very much if consumers in Manila,know which hogs come from lets say farmer A,and our farm,even if farmer A has better tasting hogs than ours.Livestock is bought,sold,slaughtered,then cut up.It is possible,that the difference,if more local or regional has a greater influence on ones sales.Commercial farms are business people first,farmers second.The only thing that really counts is sales,sales,sales at the best possible price and the maximum profit,at the lowest possible production cost(s).Keeping informed about global economics and national economics,gives some an edge.Knowing what in/out whats hot/not (priceless).Understand your consumer.Govt. data shows in the last few years commercial farms are on the rise.The Philippines is getting foreign capital and better tech.
Good Day.
mikey,Region 7 Independant

Breed can also affect the taste of the animal/ marbling of fats and muscle.

For my opinion in theory native have more fats than commercial hogs. But if we say fat most of the time what we think is the white thing which is attach to the skin of the animal.  There are also fats that are within each muscle fiber. And this is bountiful in animals that can exercise more.

Yes, commercial farm always maximize space just to attain good production and less capital.
Some backyards and semi-commercial is designing bigger pens for their animal rather than the usual 1x1 meter per animal.

I remember a backyard in bataan the gate of his farrowing pen is open and the piglets roam their yard digging soil etc and when they are hungry they just go back to their mother to drink milk. This is not a native but a landrace.  The owner said they he have a good success rate in his animal. There are no scouring in his piglet.

Native is a special delicacy and when slaughtered you could not distinguish this to a commercial pig.  The only clue you will get is price because native is much costly than commercial pigs.

[doncorleone]

Breed can also affect the taste of the animal/ marbling of fats and muscle.

For my opinion in theory native have more fats than commercial hogs. But if we say fat most of the time what we think is the white thing which is attach to the skin of the animal.  There are also fats that are within each muscle fiber. And this is bountiful in animals that can exercise more.

Yes, commercial farm always maximize space just to attain good production and less capital.
Some backyards and semi-commercial is designing bigger pens for their animal rather than the usual 1x1 meter per animal.

I remember a backyard in bataan the gate of his farrowing pen is open and the piglets roam their yard digging soil etc and when they are hungry they just go back to their mother to drink milk. This is not a native but a landrace.  The owner said they he have a good success rate in his animal. There are no scouring in his piglet.

Native is a special delicacy and when slaughtered you could not distinguish this to a commercial pig.  The only clue you will get is price because native is much costly than commercial pigs.

KASIM siguro ang tinutukoy nyo na karne na may taba sa gitna Doc Nemo. Sa tingin ko maganda pa din ang ginagawa ng dati na hinahaluan ng feeds ang lamaw na ipapakain nila sa kanilang mga alagang baboy para makatipid na nagmamahalang feeds, kaya lang dahil sa gusto na kaagad kumita ng nag-aalaga at sa impluwensya ng mga dayuhan na mas maganda na magkaroon tayo ng lahi ng baboy na galing sa ibang bansa dahil mas malalaki ito at kapag malaki ay mas mabigat kaya mas malaki din ang kita. Bakit po ba mas sakitin ang mga puting lahi ng baboy kaysa sa native na sariling atin? Kung mas masarap at mas mura pala ang native, dapat pala na paramihin natin ang mga ito dahil alam natin na mas tatangkilikin ito ng ating kapwa pilipino. I'm proud to be a Filipino

[mikey]

Doc, Good business people capitalize on opportunities.Consumer(s) asking for the native hogs,We will supply,or someone else will.Producers always looking for premium prices.If this is the breed,so be it.Business is business.Just like those who produce large fatty white hogs and supply the canned spam market,we all have to find our own market/share.In the market place,you snooze,you lose.
Sometimes OUTSIDE INFLUENCES (case point,since we started hog operations back in 2005,the native hog in our area is for the most part gone)>it was never my intention to change things,people change things.SUPPORT THE NATIVE HOG.The native hog for the most part was a natural raised product.When you have a strong demand but a limited supply,one expects premium prices.Back to basics,the native may have smaller litters,slower growing and not so heavy,but in the long run requires less capital to operate.Something to think about.
Good Farming:
mikey,Region 7 Independant

[nemo]

KASIM siguro ang tinutukoy nyo na karne na may taba sa gitna Doc Nemo. Sa tingin ko maganda pa din ang ginagawa ng dati na hinahaluan ng feeds ang lamaw na ipapakain nila sa kanilang mga alagang baboy para makatipid na nagmamahalang feeds, kaya lang dahil sa gusto na kaagad kumita ng nag-aalaga at sa impluwensya ng mga dayuhan na mas maganda na magkaroon tayo ng lahi ng baboy na galing sa ibang bansa dahil mas malalaki ito at kapag malaki ay mas mabigat kaya mas malaki din ang kita. Bakit po ba mas sakitin ang mga puting lahi ng baboy kaysa sa native na sariling atin? Kung mas masarap at mas mura pala ang native, dapat pala na paramihin natin ang mga ito dahil alam natin na mas tatangkilikin ito ng ating kapwa pilipino. I'm proud to be a Filipino

Im talking about whole hog not a particular part like kasim/pig shoulder.  To give you a better idea i put a picture.



This is the kasim/pig shoulder the white part is what we call fat. The red part is the meat/muscle fiber. But if you go microscopically you will find that between each muscle their is also some fat. A good number of it could give the animal a good taste.
See picture below for the microscopic image



Some say native are more resistant from disease because they have a good immune system due to what they eat and their lifestyle (they roam and move a lot).

But their still no concrete scientific study to back up this claim.

Native meats is more expensive than the average meat. Although raising native is cheaper than raising commercial hogs.
 

[nemo]

Doc, Good business people capitalize on opportunities.Consumer(s) asking for the native hogs,We will supply,or someone else will.Producers always looking for premium prices.If this is the breed,so be it.Business is business.Just like those who produce large fatty white hogs and supply the canned spam market,we all have to find our own market/share.In the market place,you snooze,you lose.
Sometimes OUTSIDE INFLUENCES (case point,since we started hog operations back in 2005,the native hog in our area is for the most part gone)>it was never my intention to change things,people change things.SUPPORT THE NATIVE HOG.The native hog for the most part was a natural raised product.When you have a strong demand but a limited supply,one expects premium prices.Back to basics,the native may have smaller litters,slower growing and not so heavy,but in the long run requires less capital to operate.Something to think about.
Good Farming:
mikey,Region 7 Independant

Yup, mikey, one have to find his/her market to be able to survive and earn. There are now some people who are into native, hog, chicken etc. They are going to basic again and its a good thing.

[Slyfox]

kaya mas resistant ang native kaysa lean pig. it has something to do with fat.