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Doc. Nemo and for those expert around, My family decided to move back to the philippines this year so I'm looking for business that can generate income. For now I'm in serious consideration of STARTING a HOG/SWINE/PIGGERY,if funds will allow I also wanted to start a poultry. My problem is, I'm new to this business. I kind a gathered some important information from this forum but it seems not enough.

My biggest problem right now is the marketing since I have no contact as yet, I'm also considering about contract grower but I guess I need to be there (PI) to handle the application part.

Now, my last question is your honest opinion, would it be wise to start this kind business? let say if I have P3,000,000.00 in my pocket right now. To add my land area is 7 Hectars and lots of BAMBOOS.

Thank you   

I forgot to mention, the location of intended the said farm is in ILOILO ( SARA,ILOILO) to be specific. If you know A hog OR POULTRY farm around the area pls. post it here.

Thanks

Doc. Nemo,   do you know a contractor or company that installs automatic feeder and waterer around ILOILO area. Or supplier of the equipment so I could just install it myself.

Marketing is the usual problem in the piggery business. To find biyahero's or middleman go to the palengke/market near to your place and ask around. Or you could try the slaughter house.
If your place is near a progressive city or megacities then market would not be a big problem.

Personally i do believe swine business is a profitable business. The only problem if you want to start it would take atleast 5 months to a year before you can generate some money.

Just start small and let the first six month be your learning period. afterwards then go fullblast with your business.

If you want poultry raising i would suggest go for contract growing. Poultry market is very unstable. Atleast if you are in a contract growing system you are not the one who look for a buyer.

You do not need to look for a company to build you an automatic feeder o waterer.   Unless you will build a farm that in similar to the other country. Although per my opinion it is not applicable in the philippines especially if you will just start in this business.

Automatik feeder can be bought at a prince range of maybe 4t-7t. and automatik waterer can be installed by ordinary plumber. You just need to buy a nipple drinker or ball type drinker for pigs. This cost around 100- 500 pesos.

Try to go the gallery section there are picture there about feeder.

List of hog farm and the likes... I am not sure about the accuracy of the farm listed below taken from DA 2002 pa kasi ang date na nakalagay.

ALA FARM
Contact Person : Ramon Patron
Address: Pototan, Iloilo
Products/Services: Hog Farming

ANGELINE FARM
Contact Person : William Coo
Address : Sta. Barbara, Iloilo
Product/Services : Hog Farming

BAMBI HOG FARM
Contact Person : Ma. Vina Matusa
Address : Banate, Iloilo
Tel. No. : (033) 326-0015
Product/Services : Hog Farming

CALS POULTRY SUPPLY CORPORATION
Address : Patag, Laua-an, Roxas City
             Tabucan, Mandurriao, Iloilo City
Tel. No. : (063) 321-0645; (036) 522-9068; (033) 321-1034
Product/Services : Poultry Production

CHARLIE FARM
Contact Person : Roswell Limsul
Address : Pakiad, Oton, Iloilo
Tel. No. : (033) 336-0901; (033) 37-5856
Product/Services : Hog Farming

DSV FARM
Contact Person : Lorenzo Valderrama
Address : Banate, Iloilo
Product/Services : Hog Farming

EGGER FARM
Address : San Jose, San Miguel, Iloilo
Tel. No. : (033) -321-1978; (033) 321-2756
Product/Services : Egg Production

ESA FARM
Contact Person : Patrick Abad
Address : Alegre, Oton, Iloilo
Tel. No. : (033) 336-9817
Product/Services : Hog Farming

ETERNITY FARM
Contact Person : Isidro Bayate
Address : Btac, Nuevo, Iloilo
Product/Services : Hog Farming

FIRST FARMERS FOOD CORPORATION
Contact Person : Cesar T. Abanil
Address : Bacolod City
Tel. No. : (034) 433-1466
Product/Services : Poultry

GEMMA DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION
Contact Person : Alona Canet
Address : Bacolod City
Tel. No. : (034) 434-5501; (034) 708-8050
Product/Services : Hog Farming

GREEN SWINE FARM
Contact Person : Gabby Gonazaga
Address : Bacolod City
Product/Services : Hog Farming

HERMONT HOG FARM
Contact Person : Atty. Eduardo Hernandez
Address : Dingle, Iloilo
Product/Services : Hog Farming

HOG HILLS FARM
Contact Person : Sergio Sanchez
Address : Btac. Viejo, Iloilo
Product/Services : Hog Farming

ILOILO FARMERS PRODUCERS COOPERATIVE
Contact Person : Noli B. Bajada, Chairman/BOD
Address : Devera, Sara, Iloilo
Tel. No. : (033) 392-0117
Product/Services : Cooperative/ Commercial Feeds

ILONGGO CHICKBOY CORPORATION
Address : Leon, Iloilo
Product/Services : Poultry (Kabil Chickens)

JALANDONI FARM
Contact Person : Lucas Bilaong
Address : Zarraga, Iloilo
Cellphone No. : (0919) 816- 6436
Product/Services : Hog Farming

JALTAS AGRO-INDUSTRIES CORPORATION
Contact Person : Ignacio Locsin
Address : Bacolog City
Tel. Nos. : (034) 24854; (034) 24243
Product/Services : Hog Farming

JARDIOLIN FARM
Contact Person : Jerry jardiolin
Address : Zarraga, Iloilo
Product/Services : Hog Farming

JUANTONG FARM
Contact Person : Jose juantong
Address : San Miguel, Iloilo
Product/Services : Hog Farming

LG FARM
Contact Person : Hilario Gorrieceta
Address : Pavia, Iloilo
Tel. No. : (033) 329-7514
Product/Services : Hog Farming

MA INTEGRATED FARM
Contact Person : Manuel Frederick Ko
Address : Bacolod City
Tel. Nos. : (034) 399-2714; (034) 243-69
Product/Services : Hog Farming

MENCHACA INTEGRATED AGRICULTURAL CORP.
Contact Person : Atty. Belinda Menchaca
Address : Bacolod City
Tel. No. : (034) 729-3429
Product/Services : Hog Farming

MONTINOLA FARM
Contact Person : Manuel Montinola
Address : Tigbauan, Iloilo
Product/ Services : Hog Farming
   

MCR AGRIVENTURES CORPORATION
Contact Person : Frank Limsui
Address : De Leon St., Iloilo City
Tel. No. : (033) 337-8959; (033) 337-8302
Fax No. : (033) 336-3034
Product/Services : Feed Manufacturer

NEW PANAY AGRIVENTURES
Contact Person : Engr. John Sy
Address : Cabugao Sur, Pavia, Iloilo
Tel. No. (033) 329-7673
Product/Services : Feedmiller (Love Feeds)

NC FARM
Contact Person : Socorro Canto
Address : Oton, Iloilo
Tel. No. (033) 337-1848
Product/Services : Hog Farming

NUEVA SWINE VALLEY INCORPORATED
Address : Btac. Viejo, Iloilo
Product/Services : Hog. Farming

OCTAGON FARM
Contact Person : Christine Garin
Address : Guimbal, Iloilo
Product/Services : Hog Farming

ONMARK CORPORATION
Contact Person : Paul Tinsay
Address : Muelle Loney, Iloilo City
Product/Services : Feedmiller

PAVIA FEEDMILLING
Contact Person : Joey Avila
Address : Pavia, Iloilo
Product/Services : Feedmiller

PHILIPPINE FOREMOST MILLING
Contact Person : Terence Uygongco
Address : Lapuz, Lapaz, Iloilo City
Product/Services : Feedmiller (Excel Feeds)

PRIME FEEDMILL
Contact Person : Marcelo Figueroa
Address : Cadiz City, Negros Occidental
Product/Services : Feedmilling

RAMROD AGRICULTURAL CORPORATION
Contact Person : Steve de la Rama
Address : Bacolod City
Tel. No. : (034) 433-2485
Product/Services : Swine/Corn Production

REYMAR FARM
Contact Person : Kennith Navarro
Address : Jaro, Iloilo City
Product/Services : Hog Farming

SAMS FARM
Contact Person : Bienty Go
Address : Jaro, Iloilo City
Product/Services : Hog Farming

SUGARHILLS STOCK FARM
Contact Person : Dr. Jose Alcarde
Address : Calinog, Iloilo
Product/Services : Poultry (Jalca Red Chicken)

SUNSHINE FEEDMILL
Contact Person : Rafael Pama, Jr.
Address : Inagdangan Norte, Zarraga, Iloilo
Tel. Nos. : (033) 525-4263; (033) 525-4253
Product/Services : Feedmiller; Poultry and Piggery Farm

STERLING FARM/LBK AGRICULTURAL RESOURCE
Contact Person : Victorio Lo
Address : Pototan, Iloilo
Product/Services : Hog Farming

TA-ALA FARMS, INCORPORATED
Contact Person : Rodney
Address : Felisa Rd., Mansilingan, Bacolod City
Tel. Nos. : (034) 446-1228 to 29; (034) 708-5470 to 71
Product/Services : Egg Production

TL AGRICULTURAL DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION
Contact Person : Engkhong Lee
Address : Bago City
Product/Services : Hog Farming

TRANS FARM
Contact Person : Jonathan Jao
Address : San Miguel, Iloilo
Product/Services : Hog Farming

UNISON FARM
Contact Person Johnny So
Address : Oton, Iloilo
Product/Services : Hog Farming

VITARICH CORPORATION
Contact Person : Hazel P. clada
Address : Bacolod City
Tel. No. : (034) 708-6732
Product/Services : Poultry Integrator/Feedmiller

VITARICH CORPORATION
Contact Person : Eduardo Rivera
Address : Iloilo City
Tel No. : (033) 320-6753
Product/Services : Poultry Integrator/Feedmiller

V-4 SWINE AND POULTRY FARM
Contact Person : Stenen Young
Address : Valladolid, Negros Occidental
Product/Services : Swine and Poultry

WESTERN VISAYAS FEEDMILL
Contact Person : Alendi Anglo
Address : Nabitasan, Lapaz, Iloilo City
Tel. No. : (033) 320- 6398
Product/Services : Feedmiller

7 TONNER FEEDMILL
Contact Person : Carlos Chua
Address : Burgos St., Bacolod City
Product/Services : Feedmilling

Doc. Nemo thanks a lot for the tip. I have'nt look at the gallery yet. I guess I would have to read all the posting first before placing my question for redundancy.

Redundancy is allowed.

Most people here are busy that they have limited time to look for answers. So they just post for a question.

Just try to put it on proper topics.

So, far topics are organized naman. :)

Doc Nemo, salamat.

Sara better to start off small,or have a good job with lots of overtime,hogs eat their weight in gold,bio security is another,only those who need to at the farm should be allowed around the stock,or risk the chance of bringing in outside deseases,wash hands and feet all the time when handling the stock and their feed,security is another problem,barb wire with lights and have dogs for a early warning system.
buy a hog raising book from Doc. Nemo,explains alot and get to know how to do the 3 way breeding program.  Good Luck With Your Venture
mikey

Mikey thaks for the tips. Absolutely, foundation/knowledge is the first thing. Safety and security is definite.

Sara,welcome to the club,Canada produces approx. 12 million hogs per year,the biggest export market is Japan.The Philippines produces approx. 10 million hogs per year with little to no export markets.WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE.
Good Farming Everyone                             mikey

Mikey, I'm not sure what's going on. there might be an underground movement going on or Filipinos just eat to much PORK.

Mikey, just to ask if you don't mind me asking, what's your opinion about contract grower?. If I have to start my own piggery what should I consider first,Breeding or Fattening?lastly do you have any pictures of your building design that includes the inclosures/forrowing cage and the cages as a whole.Pardon me of my piggery language because I'm still trying to familiarize them.(boar,gilt,forrow,sow etc).Thanks

Robbie

The philippine is a pork loving country. Most of our produce are being consumed here. Just imagine the philippines has about 80 million people who eat pork.

We cannot export yet to other country because our pork is much expensive compared to other country.

But there are now companies that are trying to go global. Hopefully they will open the doors for the export of hogs.

Robbie,ok Doc. Nemo explained it well,but it would be good for the Philippines to start exporting.China has its eyes open to this idea,exporting
The question about breeding or fattening,I am not the one to ask,they both have good points and bad points,With us, its a little of both,boy piglets get their family jewels removed,if people know you have piglets they may ask you not to operate on a male they wish to buy,so this will become a breeder (boar) male or a young unbred female is known as a gilt.
this is a little of both.Sorry have no pictures I can send over the net,I have lots of still shots,the barns were built in sections,28 feet wide by 32 feet long,there are 4 ,8 by 8 cement pens on each side ( 8 cement pens in total ) with 2 mothers in each pen,pushed against the cement walls,the space in the middle works as a farrowing area,the mother pig can lay down and still nurse her babies,you have to make sure the other mother will farrow later,after these are weaned,the same on the other side,so you have 16 sows plus 6 sows in the centre divided by metal between to large water tanks,so 22 in total in a 28 by 32,from the outside one cannot see the hogs because of the cement blocks,door way at each end. We have a 2 tier metal roof,enclosed with bamboo,looks like a house,the cost is 250,000.00 pesos per section times 3 sections,or I forgot,then you need 2 32 feet long metal dividers for the front of the pens,construction costs raise daily,cement.metal etc.Mr Hog has a different style of barn,maybe simplier to construct with less hassle,I wanted ours to look more Canadian.
hope this maybe of some help to you.                  Good Day      mikey

Mikey,thanks. May I know where about is your location in CEBU? I come to CEBU to buy my slasher knife(TARI)sometimes. I will be in PI DEC.-March then back inToronto to settle some business then back again in PI. Are visiting PI any time soon? keep in touch.

Robbie

Rob,forgot to tell you,I asked the Doc. 1 time about contract hog producers,I believe he told me he never heard of such a thing yet,our location is Negros Oriental outside a little town of La libertad,district 1,would be hard to miss our place,the barns look better than the houses the locals live in,am sorry to say.Looks like we will have to work through 2008 to keep paying for everything there,am planning on going back in 2009 on a surprize inspection,I am a industrial painter,paint ships,towers,bridges etc,all high work,we call ourselves the half way to hell gang.The Westcoast here is booming,times like this one takes the cash,have worked construction for a long time,this industry cycles,good and bad years,while its booming now,it will crash at some point.Toronto,you should be here on the coast,this is a much better place to live,Toronto,east is east,but west is best.                   mikey

There are some multicompany that offering hog contract grower now but i am not sure in visayas or mindanao area. And also they ask for a million for house building etc.

Read this topic http://pinoyagribusiness.com/forum/swine/starting_a_swine_business-t11.0.html;msg34#msg34 (http://pinoyagribusiness.com/forum/swine/starting_a_swine_business-t11.0.html;msg34#msg34)  by dok929

I'm having a second thought. Contract grower really needs big capital.

Sara,start small,boys have big dreams,big dreams cost big money,Mr hog and I have over a $$$$$$$ each in our barns now.We both still have to pump money in to keep the operations going,some days it is hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel.In the future Mr Hog will have a good size operation at his place,myself our hog operation will be much smaller,thinking about capping ours off around 44 sows now,We still need to build and fattening barn now,more money again.Be careful what you wish for,may come back to bite you in your ass.
Good Luck Boys                             mikey

Mikey, money flows eh. I pump more question once I get my piggery business going or maybe able to answer some question too. What I need right now is to see visually how my cage/barn look like thats why I've been surfing on the net about piggery cage/barn design.

Sara,information is golden,the more you know the better off you will be.
Good Luck             mikey

Hey sara build the same design as my farm  thats the most common style I believe I spent with septic tank  all the welder labour and other labour stuff 700,000 close to that amout anyway for 80 sow cages..everything is cement and steel.I believe it was a 2 month job for them you now contract.Plus we are set up to make bio gas with the septic tank.

Mr. Hog, I really need to see your place. I will let you know once I'm in the philippines.

Ok sara what you mean you would like to visit my farm?That would be ok I could arrange that.Do you have your ticket to go back to the phills yet?

Mr. hog, My departure is on Dec. 12. I bought my ticket 6 months ago so this is it now. I have to face the reality. I will be all over the Philippines when I get there. I will be in CEBU,DAVAO,MANILA and BAGUIO. I will be visiting FARMS in all sorts.

your departure date is closing in are you getting excited?

Mr. hog, kind a excited and scared, you know how expensive it is back home.

Hello everyone,


It's been about 2 years now since Sara & company has updated this topic. Any news about his business? Has it prospered?

Thanks

no one ever heard from him again??????????????????If he stayed in the Philippines or came back to Canada,million dollar question???????????????

Too bad. I was looking forward to a kind of real-life drama unfolding. Whether it continued/s to be a success or a bad ending I believe would really be beneficial.

I'm putting up a farm on the next town where Sara was planning to locate. I started small about 2 years ago, but I'm hesitating to go full blast. On the other hand, what attracts me though are the prices of raw material like corn and rice bran which are way way cheap in that area. I could really use some suggestions since the land could be a good source of feeds for hog and poultry pioneering entrepreneurship. Can anyone post a good feed material percent constituency using crops direct from the land? Like Sara, indigenous materials like lumber and bamboo could temporarily be used until such time a good ROI could be achieved coupled with a consistent market -then, just like what's being advised, go full blast! With these indigenous matl's and cheap labor, I have come up with only 1/4th (thereabouts) the cost of construction of hog houses posted in one of the topics discussed here. Last July, I planted  and my corn crops yielded a double turn-over considering that prices of corn dropped to P7.50 per kilo because of the crop glut. But as soon as the glut fizzles out, a whopping P13 per kilo is being offered! Problem is, no corn would be available by then in the market. Likewise, fish meal is P10 in the local market. In short, the properties in that area have promising prospects. I could say it does because in spite of the devastation that typhoon Frank brought about, in just a year, one could be able to recover its losses.

My family just got a decision from the DAR -30 hars to be exact last 2007 exempting it from the CARP program because of its terrain of above 18% slope. 2 creeks traverses this steep property ending up in a river adjacent to the entire property. There are several springs in that barangay, so much so, that if one taps & engineers wisely, water will be a free-flowing supply to poultry/hog houses. The property is just adorable and I don't know where to begin. And it's too bad we haven't heard from Sara. I imagine he too has something like this.

Anyway, it would be nice to hear from Sara, you know, how his prospects turned out.

IN terms of feed formulation try to see this link Feed formula (http://pinoyagribusiness.com/forum/feed_formulation/grower_mash_formulation-t687.0.html).

Well my hog venture went broke.After spending all that money on decent barns and such my in laws are not business minded people and could only carry on if money kept coming from overseas.What happened to all the money that was collected from selling hogs,who knows will find out in April 2010 when I arrive on different business matters.Sometimes one mans dream may only be his own.
I have 11 sows and 1 boar now that I keep for myself,will I ever go back to 50 sows,doubt that will happen anytime soon as those barns now sit empty.

I heard of one foreigner in the Philippines that fed a white hog solely on malunggay leaves and it grew and when slaughtered was tooooooooooooooooooo lean.People are making their own feed formulation to feed their livestock.

Meat The Need:
mikey

That is so sad Mikey. I hope you could be able to get back at it again. I've heard of OFW's coming home with the hope of returning home expecting a lucrative business upon their retirement. Unfortunately, similar stories about heartbreaking goings on back home usually happen. But there's still a bright side. Your barn houses must be double in cost if it were constructed today. One thing good about the high investments in hogs are the fixed assets that continue to appreciate despite the loss in the operation itself. Pump in cash again & u'r back in business. This is how i look at my business if in case this venture flops.

But my biggest concern however is that in hog raising, the feeds that traders sell are out of proportion! Their prices are unbelievably incredible. It's like your feeding pigs with gold! I don't blame any hog raiser to end up broke!  ??? ??? ??? ???If there's anything that should be done is to STOP buying from them and go back to the basic creation of our own feed formula.  >:( >:( >:( >:(I have made more than 10 comparisons & you can reduce the prices of feeds if you grow it from your farm. In this way, hog mash producers should revise their prices. I have already been trying this in the past 11 months with several hogs. My first litter produced 9 healthy piglets.

I guess, if I would look at my investment, if the land has no utang, that in itself is not an absolute loss. Land appreciates & that's where the real pork is. Hogs are just good for cash flow. Para hindi tayo magugutom while waiting for the price of land to appreciate. I've heard of someone developing his 15 har property, pouring in millions of pesos to his hog farm. After 5 years, it went broke. But apparently, he's recovering. He converted it into a subdivision and sells houses instead.

I've posted a mash formula that I have to pursue in the next 3-4 months because these are the only raw materials both my land can produce & what I can buy from the local store at somewhat reasonable prices. Dr. Nemo posted it & I was forced to reinvent it from there. The reason why some ingredients are missing is because local stores no longer sell the raw materials for a long time. They have shifted to premix formula, which WILL NEVER be financially viable. So i renovated it in the hope that I could make some profit. I wish somebody would give sound advises before I complete the purchase of this formula. I'm preparing this formula next week good for 20 hogs.

I just hope it works out with my mini-micro hog farm. You can have a look at it in the topic Feed formula.... or something like that title

Lesson learned,sometimes you win and sometimes you lose,thats life in the real world.

about your feed program,will look into it after.I would say one thing tho,me I would add charcoal to any feed I made myself to help eliminate scours,how much too add not sure maybe Doc. has some ideas.

the added problems with any livestock venture is their feed cost,plain and simple.The one who can find the cheapest means to produce has the best chances for success.Sometimes that profit is very small unless one has numbers.

Best of luck to all:
mikey

Meat The Need:

That is so true... My other business survived because I was able to use rice husk & wood trims for fuel.... Cost cutting is the key to survival; thus, with numbers you're no longer surviving only but thriving.

Starting po ako this December ng pag bababoy. So far available area ko is 4m x 4m. ung septic tank ay pwede eseperate kasi malaki din naman ang remaining area.

Hingi po sana ako ng suggestion ilan baboy pwede dito sa are ko na 4x4. bale bibili lang po ako ng biik at ako lang magpapalaki. May mga katanungan din po ako.

1. Kaya po ba 10 baboy sa area ko?
2. 90 days lang po target ko sa pagpapalaki. Kaya po ba abotin ang 85kg or 90kg sa loob ng 90 days lamang?

*backyard farm lang po ito. Bale testing ko po ito bago palakihin ang negosyo. Negros Occ po location ko. Wala po ako actual na experience sa pagbababoy, puro lang po libro at internet ang mga sources ko. Balak ko po e-pure feeds ang baboy. Ano po brand kaya ang maganda?

Salamat po sa mga magrereply.

sa 4 x 4 kasya ang 16 pigs.
Pero dahil starting ka pa lang naman better start sa 10 animals and as much as possible dpat magkakapatid lahat ito or isang akayan lang.

Kaya naman kaso bihira maattain ang 85-90 kgs within 3 months na alagaan.

helow mr, try to visit www.vitarich.com if you want to build your poultry bussiness and hog farm bussiness i think they can help you in marketing your stocks.