Title: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: mikey on August 13, 2007, 07:38:22 AM I think one should be able to make their pig crumble,lets be honest,a pig will eat anything,in North America lots of people feed their hogs food other than pig crumble,starting to plant food for our goats,soyabeans(seeds from Canada)whole wheat,barley,Philippine corn,mongobeans,is this not the basics for pig crumble(maybe not mongobeans)okay fishmeal,bloodmeal and bonemeal might be hard to find,salt,brown sugar and seaweed are all available,Someone in the Philippines must have the answer,the cost to raise and feed 50 piglets over $7000.00(CDN.) or P300000.00 and not much profit for all the work,at this rate even OFW cannot afford to help their families with pig operations,our breeding sows and boars get wet fed with corn,swamp cabbage,vegetables,fruits,brown sugar,seaweed and thay are all healthy and breed well,some of our sows have 18 per litter,its the weaned piglets that get the crumble or they get sick and die,there must be a answer to this problem.Thank-You mikey
Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: nemo on August 13, 2007, 11:49:56 AM TO make crumble is a little bit difficult because of the machine needed.
There are some raisers today who is trying alternative feeds like mixing their own. Yes it will grow also but the problem is it will make the harvest time of the animal more longer Instead of 5 months it would take around 6-7 months. Is it ok to ask if you are from Canada or other country than the Philippines? SO i could address your inquiry more accurately Thanks Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: mr hog on August 13, 2007, 01:18:32 PM Hey what part of canada you from?
Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: mr hog on August 13, 2007, 01:21:30 PM But I do beleive your feed cost is a little high?It does not cost 6000p per pig for fatting .
Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: mikey on August 13, 2007, 02:00:56 PM Mr.Hog,from British Columbia Canada, the west coast,as for the pig feed,it cost alot,the farm is located in Region 7 uplands,this is taken from our books
crumble 50kg. cost P600.00 to 1050. depends on how much was bought at 1 time hog raised to 100kg. eats 10 50kg. sacks of crumble cost =P6000.00 per head plus overhead P500.00 per head plus toal cost = P6500.00 plus 100kg. hog sold for P7000.00 each head 50 heads to 100kg. cost P300,000.00 sold in 2006 for P350,000.00 PROFIT = P50,000.00 Have red on the net about the large hog farms in the Philippines going broke ,they can no longer afford to fatten their hogs,not profitable any longer in the fattening business ,Buyers come from Cebu and visit farms here to buy livestock,do you really think us uplands people get a fair price for our livestock NO ,we do not,what other choice do we have,none of us have transportation to move our livestock to Cebu,from our place to Cebu is 1 days travel,sometimes overnight.People here no longer want the native pig,white pigs need alot of water,they are in my opinion high maintance,you have to hire people to build housing.welders for the metal dividers,water supply and pipes,hollow block supplier,cement,rebar,the list goes on and on,We are only able to make a go at it because we sell our pig at 2-3 months old for P1400.00 each,this is a niche market for us and so far the buyers buy them.Good Luck Farming mikey Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: nemo on August 13, 2007, 05:58:23 PM Sir mikey,
Is it safe to say that you are more into piglets production rather than fattening. How many sow currently do you have. If you like i could try to formulate a sow diet that you could use and try it first in one of your sow(form breeding to farrowing) if it would give you a good result then it is up to you to continue. Hope in this way it could cut your cost in swine production. Although please give me time to do it. Im a little busy right now. To have an estimate for construction of your barn some expert in the field of swine allocate 40t per sow. I do believe included here is the cost of the sow, gestating stall, farrowing pen and housing. Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: mr hog on August 13, 2007, 09:49:19 PM Hi mikey I am also from British columbia.How much is it per kilo live wait in your place?Her in davao it is 70-80 per kilo live wait.I believe if you have a large sow operation 100 hundred or more you will make good money. as in only having 10 sows.Milky have you looked into feed for credit programe?You pay after the hog have gone to the market..I know that people are always trying to get the piglets for a discount,when I was there last week just came back on aug 4 people would always ask sir can I get a discount 1700.The price per piglet is 1800 in are area.Hybreed is more I think.
Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: nemo on August 26, 2007, 03:24:46 PM Mikey,
I have made a swine formulation for fattener and sent it through your email. If you are really trying to look for an alternative feed you could try this although i cannot guarantee it for i have never tested it i have only computed it through referencing books. And also i would state that still the best feeds are the commercial feeds even it cost alot. What i could only guarantee is that it is better compared to randomly feeding the pigs with just any feed stuff that is available. Check also whether the cost to produce this feed is cheaper than what you are buying. If not then better to continue your commercial feeds. You could try to sample a few of your pig just to see if it is suited to their needs. Nemo Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: nemo on August 28, 2007, 05:46:25 PM Mikey,
I send the file again. Hope it could help Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: mikey on August 29, 2007, 02:56:35 PM Mr Nemo,you are a gentleman and a scholar,now I think we will be organic
next year with the formulation you emailed me,I wish to thank -you for all your advise and help.Have a good day mikey Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: nemo on August 29, 2007, 05:58:54 PM Welcome.
Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: mikey on September 26, 2007, 02:08:55 AM Dr. Nemo,we will try and make our own hog chow,thanks for that info you mailed me some time ago,the only question I have is about the (fish meal) not able to buy it at our place (realize this is high protein)was wondering if we could use hog crumble instead (one with the highest protein level),well this all depends on if the soy,wheat,barley will grow, just in the planting stage now,did let my brother in law know, one cannot feed straight from the plant,after harvest,store for 1 month,then use.
Good Day To You Doc. mikey Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: nemo on September 26, 2007, 09:56:31 AM You can use it but there would be a changes in the proportion. I would recheck the data and send you another adjustment.
Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: mikey on September 26, 2007, 02:46:17 PM Dr. Nemo,thank you Have A Good Day mikey
Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: nemo on September 27, 2007, 07:14:21 AM Your welcome
Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: Parislang on September 28, 2007, 05:16:48 PM What is base mix?is it same with the generic hog concentrate?
Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: nemo on September 28, 2007, 08:27:45 PM base mix is same as hog concentrate.
Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: mikey on October 29, 2007, 09:36:19 AM Dr. Nemo,lets say i find the fish meal in Cebu,if I increase the protein part by 1 kg. every other month this should be okay,I am wondering if 1 can give the hogs too much protein??
Good Day Doc. mikey Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: nemo on October 29, 2007, 10:55:42 AM Too much is relative to the metabolism of the animal. There are standards the nutritionist follow on how much protein an animal gets in different stages. There are animals that even you give a high amount of protein will only grow at a certain pace.
Usually as the animal grow the need of protein becomes less. That is why prestarter and starter feeds are much expensive than grower and finisher feeds because of the protein content. You could increase the soya part but i would suggest not to increase the fish meal. Fish meal is given in little quantity in the feed mix. There is a certain limit on how much you can give this. Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: mikey on October 30, 2007, 02:12:52 AM Doc, Thanks,I understand,Doc, am told you cannot feed raw soya beans to hogs,must be cooked or roasted first,is this correct.
Thanks again mikey ::) Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: nemo on October 30, 2007, 10:54:57 AM all ingredients must be cooked first. This is to help in the proper digestion of the food.
Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: nemo on October 31, 2007, 12:51:20 PM You're welcome
Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: mikey on November 01, 2007, 02:39:08 AM Doc,when you say all ingredients should be cooked first,you mean corn.barley,wheat etc.how many times a day should one feed their hogs,I would like to feed our hogs more often but the in laws tell me it will make the hogs sick,I tried to explain to them here in Canada the hogs are fed by automatic feeders,the hogs can eat when they want to,the fatteners that is,they feed our hogs 3 times a day with snacks in between.
Doc,almost forgot to ask you this question,fish meal is processed fish scraps,if one was to buy fresh fish and cook it with the other ingredients,will this work for us,would save us alot of time traveling to Cebu??? Thanks again Doc. mikey Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: mikey on December 02, 2007, 01:05:16 PM There are ingredients than can be fed to hogs,have found its the % and DM content,never seems to be listed or added.is this a trade secret or something??
After examining different methods of mixing feeds,I am considering silage because it seems to be less labour intensive,able to make any amount one wishes at at given time,storage seems to be the only problem,was thinking about adding molasses just before the hogs get their feedings,would seem to be less expensive in the long term,getting raw materials might be a problem,if one could not grow their own. Later: mikey Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: Slyfox on December 02, 2007, 06:13:55 PM Dr. Nemo,lets say i find the fish meal in Cebu,if I increase the protein part by 1 kg. every other month this should be okay,I am wondering if 1 can give the hogs too much protein?? Good Day Doc. mikey minimum fishmeal requirement for piglet 5 to 8 % only. you should also check your feed ENERGY all ingredients must be cooked first. This is to help in the proper digestion of the food. it's not true you can feed pig in raw Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: mikey on December 02, 2007, 09:08:11 PM with silage you do not need fishmeal.Already found plant sources for protein content.
Fishmeal diet for pigs,quality and flavour of pig meat are at their best when fishmeal is typically included at up to 2% of the diet,between 5-10% in creep and starter feeds,and around 4% in grower/finisher rations.Fishmeal may be fed at levels of up to 5% contributing to no more than 0.5% fish oil,to growing and finishing pigs.A withholding period of up to 5-7 weeks before slaughter as not to negatively affect the quality of the meat. mikey: Region 7,Independant Producer: Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: nemo on December 02, 2007, 11:17:47 PM There are ingredients than can be fed to hogs,have found its the % and DM content,never seems to be listed or added.is this a trade secret or something?? It is how they mixed this ingredients. In large feed milling they use linear programming on which the computer will compute for the proper mix feeds withe the least cost for their part. Although it does not mean that it is the best formula but it only show you the most economical formula that will satisfy the requirement of the animal. Fish meal with silage? not sure but i think it is not okay to do. Slyfox, true you could feed it raw but like i said to help in proper digestion it better to cook it. Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: mikey on December 03, 2007, 02:31:48 AM Doc,the plan is to cook my own fishmeal,sun dry it,moisture free now,at time of mixing the silage feed ,add the fishmeal crumble/powder and some molasses,feed to the hogs.This is the direction I am headed in,silage seems to be the least labour intensive,cooking it everyday would be very labour intensive,that is why I feel silage would help.Once you opened the silage up,let the air circulate it,will stop the fermenting process,able to store in a dry place then.Would do the same with the corn,cook it first,sun dry,store,now one has the DM, the only other part is the % part of the formulation.
Later:mikey Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: nemo on December 03, 2007, 10:38:39 AM You don't need to cook it everyday you just need to make a batch feed per week.
once you have exposed silage to air its life span would be shorter because bacteria will start to proliferate. So, better check how long you could store it after exposing it to air. Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: mikey on December 03, 2007, 11:03:07 AM Urea, might be a better idea,already in dm form,my understanding use no more than 10% in total.
Later: mikey Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: Slyfox on December 04, 2007, 10:56:52 AM Urea, might be a better idea,already in dm form,my understanding use no more than 10% in total. Later: mikey its good idea when will you try it bro? kindly tell us the result thank you :) Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: mikey on December 05, 2007, 01:15:51 PM Slyfox,already use urea for our goats,no more than 10% but we mix it in their drinking water.Right now we are too spread out,too many different animals going on a once.The hogs will have to wait for some time yet,the goats are getting a upgraded barn,That story I was reading about using sweetpotato,already in use through out Asia including the Philippines,did not say where in the Philippines it is used as hog chow,somewhere there.Have been growing tangtong since 2005 and feed it to the breeding sows,raw,chopped up,we are lucky we grow our own corn,the plan is to take the tangtong and turn it into silage,cook and dry the corn meal will now become dm,add the urea,calicum,salt and molasses,as the hogs grown cut back on the tangtong and urea and add more corn and ricebran.The story did say that you can cook it if you wanted too,silage just seems easier to manage,cooking is a everyday job.The major problem I see in homemade chow is location,every location would have different feedstufs that one can use,knowing which ones one can use is the problem
From everything I have been reading,not impossible to mix up your feeds,just needs some fine tuning. This plant sounds interesting I have been reading about Malunggay (mothers best friend),will increase milk production,and also contains alot of vitamins,grows all over our place,free for us to harvest the leaves and dry in to dm. Later: mikey Independant Producer Region 7 Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: Slyfox on December 05, 2007, 05:32:48 PM Slyfox,already use urea for our goats,no more than 10% but we mix it in their drinking water.Right now we are too spread out,too many different animals going on a once.The hogs will have to wait for some time yet,the goats are getting a upgraded barn,That story I was reading about using sweetpotato,already in use through out Asia including the Philippines,did not say where in the Philippines it is used as hog chow,somewhere there.Have been growing tangtong since 2005 and feed it to the breeding sows,raw,chopped up,we are lucky we grow our own corn,the plan is to take the tangtong and turn it into silage,cook and dry the corn meal will now become dm,add the urea,calicum,salt and molasses,as the hogs grown cut back on the tangtong and urea and add more corn and ricebran.The story did say that you can cook it if you wanted too,silage just seems easier to manage,cooking is a everyday job.The major problem I see in homemade chow is location,every location would have different feedstufs that one can use,knowing which ones one can use is the problem From everything I have been reading,not impossible to mix up your feeds,just needs some fine tuning. This plant sounds interesting I have been reading about Malunggay (mothers best friend),will increase milk production,and also contains alot of vitamins,grows all over our place,free for us to harvest the leaves and dry in to dm. Later: mikey Independant Producer Region 7 KANGKONG.anyway how many sows you have ? Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: mikey on December 06, 2007, 08:14:38 AM Slyfox,thanks for the correct spelling,have no real interest in hogs anymore,carry 30 something sows now.Flemingia also a bypass protein 18% cp,basically acts the same as urea.Our location too remote to get a decent price for our hogs,prices are always lower in the more remote places.Should we buy our own truck,truck the hogs to Cebu,might be worthwhile increasing the sow numbers again,for now just loosing money on the hogs.
Later: mikey,Independant Producer Region 7 Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: Slyfox on December 06, 2007, 10:54:32 AM what's your currrent hog price on your place?
Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: mr hog on December 06, 2007, 11:24:12 AM Cheap Protein for Pigs: Scrap Fish
One of the richest sources of protein for pigs is fish. But fishmeal is expensive and not easily available in some places. However, in places by the sea, there are opportunities to provide their pigs with cheap protein. Manner of Preparation: 1. Place the fishes in containers that are not metallic, must be clay pot or enamel. 2. For every 100 kilos of different fishes, add 3 liters mallic acid (or sulfuric acid). Acid stops the growth of microbes in the flesh of the fishes and from deterioration. 3. Put in an equal amount of corn, cassava, or grains. This will increase the carbohydrate content of the mixture and will lower the acid percentage in the feed. The resulting 1.5% acid will not damage the stomach or intestine of the pigs Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: mikey on December 06, 2007, 01:15:30 PM Do not really know what the price per kg. is,buyers look at the hogs then make you a offer,take it or leave it,prices are below current market values,that is all I know.
Later: mikey Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: mikey on December 06, 2007, 01:17:46 PM Mr Hog,there you go,see it is possible to mix ones own feeds,just have too play around with it for awhile,until you figure it out.
Later mikey Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: nigdelta on January 12, 2008, 09:06:00 AM Dr Nemo,
Good morning. Here a newbie, just returned as OFW, got a land for agribusiness and want to start a piggery aside from planting. Please kindly share me this feed formulation so i'll know what to include in my plants. I'm an experienced mechanical engineer and also most willing to contribute any technical knowledge i can to this community. Another new one here waiting for your benevolence. Thanks, nigdelta Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: nemo on January 12, 2008, 05:16:34 PM Greetings!
The feed that i formulate was only a basic one and it is in the range of starter feeds only and it is not tested. I just formulated it using excel. I would try to look at my old files if i can find it. If you live in luzon area it is best to use commercial feeds. But in areas like visaya and mindanao where pice of hog is very low using alternative is a good option. Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: nigdelta on January 15, 2008, 01:10:31 PM Dr. Nemo,
My farm will be in Antipolo. Commercial feeds will always be there, but definitely, i'll have to prepare some on my own due to the farm crops that i will grow. Thanks for your time, nigdelta Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: mr hog on January 15, 2008, 01:15:43 PM Hi nigdelta welcome..Is it worth growing your own feeds?
Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: mikey on January 30, 2008, 07:00:16 AM Update experiment (07/10) results on homemade feeds:
corn bran root crops ,tara roots and leaves,sweet potato and leaves kangkong vine papayas,bananas,coconuts root crops,kangkong.papayas,bananas are cooked to a mash,when cooled down add the corn bran,shredded coconut and salt and molasses. The formulation is now fed to only breeding sows,all healthy no signs of scours,maybe important to add livestock lime when sows pregnant. Note: This formulation has not worked for weaned hogs(all died in the experiment so far) scours was the main problem,it is possible the feed change was too fast,will try it again later. So far this shows some promise in making ones own feeds,more time consuming to make, but if one can grow their own feeds on their land it is possible to lower production costs: Good Farming To All: mikey Independant Producer Region 7 Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: Slyfox on January 30, 2008, 12:04:00 PM Update experiment (07/10) results on homemade feeds: corn bran root crops ,tara roots and leaves,sweet potato and leaves kangkong vine papayas,bananas,coconuts root crops,kangkong.papayas,bananas are cooked to a mash,when cooled down add the corn bran,shredded coconut and salt and molasses. The formulation is now fed to only breeding sows,all healthy no signs of scours,maybe important to add livestock lime when sows pregnant. Note: This formulation has not worked for weaned hogs(all died in the experiment so far) scours was the main problem,it is possible the feed change was too fast,will try it again later. So far this shows some promise in making ones own feeds,more time consuming to make, but if one can grow their own feeds on their land it is possible to lower production costs: Good Farming To All: mikey Independant Producer Region 7 cheap feed and lots of mortality hmmmmmmmmmmm disaster in the making. Good Luck pare hindi naman sa costing ang problema. kung magtaasan ang bilihin ng raw mats then we should also increase our selling para lang kumita tayo.never sacrifice your pig on experimental feed kawawa naman yong baboy. kung papabayaan mo lang ang buyer mag dicta sa presyo hindi ka na dapat mag negosyo ng baboyan Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: mr hog on January 30, 2008, 12:15:31 PM Hey slyfox what you mean good luck hehehhe? I know you have the forumla why dont you share some of your trade secrets with us?
Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: Slyfox on January 30, 2008, 12:18:41 PM Hey slyfox what you mean good luck hehehhe? I know you have the forumla why dont you share some of your trade secrets with us? i already shared may booster/prestater feed formulation. i can't find the thread kung gusto ninyo murang pagkain punta lang kayo sa fastfood chain doon maraming left over food ayan pweding pwede sa baboy. Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: mr hog on January 30, 2008, 12:32:55 PM slyfox what the last line you said?
Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: Slyfox on January 30, 2008, 12:40:40 PM dont experiment gestating , lactating ,boaster and prestater feed because this is the crucial time of pig.
there's a lot commercial feed in visayas and mindanao. Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: mikey on January 31, 2008, 06:31:59 AM I would be the first to agree,commercial feeds will always be a producer(s) first choice.Experimenting around,one needs to accept the losses that goes with it,if you cannot afford the losses,you cannot afford to experiment.The point of the article is,it is possible to make a mash for sows and boers.This formulation has its drawbacks,limited to only sows,needs some more experimenting and fine tuning.What works at one farm may not work at another farm.One needs a far amount of land to plant all these foodstuffs to make a mash.
Good Farming To All: mikey region 7 Independant Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: Slyfox on January 31, 2008, 07:19:06 PM Quote Feeding Food Wastes to Livestock1 By Robert Myer and Holly Johnson2- Many food wastes have a high nutritional value, and recycling them for animal feed can be a viable waste disposal option. What are Food Wastes? The term "food waste" used in this fact sheet is applied to wasted food from the food service industry (i.e. restaurants) and grocery stores. These wastes include plate waste (scrapings), food leftovers, kitchen wastes, spoiled food, expired food, mislabeled food, etc. Other terms to describe these wastes include food residuals, plate waste and kitchen scraps. Two older terms, "garbage" and "swill," are still used, but the livestock and waste management industries prefer not to use these older terms. Feeding Food Wastes to Livestock Many kinds of food waste can be fed directly to livestock with minimal processing. Food waste that does not contain meat or meat by-products and has not been in contact with meat or meat by-products is exempt from federal and Florida regulations and can be fed to cattle and swine with no processing. Food wastes that include meat or meat by-products or that have been in contact with meat or meat by-products can be fed to swine. Individuals who plan to feed swine this type of food waste must be licensed as food waste feeders (garbage feeders) by the state of Florida3. The state has adopted regulations set forth in the Federal 1980 Swine Health Protection Act.4 Under these regulations, food wastes with meat or meat by-products or that have been in contact with meat or meat by-products must be cooked at 212°F (100°C) (boiled) for at least 30 minutes before being used as swine feed. There over 100 licensed swine food waste feeders in Florida. Licenses must be renewed annually. The state of Florida has inspectors who will periodically visit swine food waste feeders to ensure that cooking regulations are being followed. Cattle can be fed food wastes containing meat or meat by-products or that have been in contact with meat or meat by-products as long as these wastes were from food intended for human consumption. In January of 2004, however, the Federal government proposed four rule changes to restrict feeding of food waste containing meat to cattle. This proposal was the result of the first confirmed case of Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE; "mad cow disease") in cattle in the United States. One of these rules states that plate waste cannot be fed to ruminant animals. The reason for this proposed ban is that it is hard to distinguish protein of ruminant origin that may be in plate waste/food waste from protein of ruminant origin in banned rendered products. (Since 1997 it has been illegal in the USA to feed various rendered feed products such as meat and bone meal of ruminant origin to cattle and sheep and other ruminant animals. This ban was put in place in response to the BSE outbreak in Europe). As of 2007, however, the proposed rule changes have not been implemented. Therefore, it is still legal to feed food wastes that contain meat or that have been in contact with meat to cattle. Be aware that this can change in the future. Footnotes 1. This document is Fact sheet AS116, one of a series of the Animal Science Department, Florida Cooperative Extension Services, Institute of Food and Agricultural Sciences, University of Florida. Please visit the EDIS web site at http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu . This document was revised on July 2004, and again on April 2007. 2. R.O. Myer, Professor of Animal Science, North Florida Research and Education Center, Marianna, Florida; and Holly Johnson, former Graduate Assistant, Center for Biomass Programs, Cooperative Extension Service, Institute of Food and Agricultural Sciences, University of Florida, Gainesville, 32611. 3. Florida Division of Animal Industry Rules, Chapter 5C-11 (5C-11.015; Feeding Garbage; Application for Permit Fees; form DACS-09015). 4. Florida Division of animal Industry Rules, Chapter 5C-11 (5C-11.017, Feeding Garbage; Procedures, Equipment, Records, Quarantine, and Pre-treating Requirements). Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: mikey on February 01, 2008, 08:34:58 AM food waste is fed to growers usually.One problem with food waste is there is always a chance your hogs will get sick or worst case (death).Cooking food waste first,no guarantee your hogs will not get sick.Its a chance you take.Knowing the source of the food wastes is helpful.Good Luck.
mikey,Region 7 Independant Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: fathers pride on June 09, 2008, 07:08:29 PM Mikey,
I have made a swine formulation for fattener and sent it through your email. If you are really trying to look for an alternative feed you could try this although i cannot guarantee it for i have never tested it i have only computed it through referencing books. And also i would state that still the best feeds are the commercial feeds even it cost alot. What i could only guarantee is that it is better compared to randomly feeding the pigs with just any feed stuff that is available. Check also whether the cost to produce this feed is cheaper than what you are buying. If not then better to continue your commercial feeds. You could try to sample a few of your pig just to see if it is suited to their needs. Nemo GOOD DAY DOC. Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: fathers pride on June 17, 2008, 09:03:50 PM doc can you send me your feed formulation.
Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: nemo on June 18, 2008, 08:01:35 PM Sorry i could not find the formula na.
I would try to send you once i found it. Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: fathers pride on June 18, 2008, 08:30:55 PM Thank you po. Hope that you can find it. Thanks again
Title: Re: can I make my own pig crumble Post by: nemo on June 20, 2008, 09:55:24 PM I have posted some feed formula (http://pinoyagribusiness.com/forum/feed_formulation-b30.0/) taken from a magazine.
Hope this could help. |