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      REGISTRATION                                                                         --PREDICTED TRANSMITTING ABILITIES---
  HERD    NUMBER          Name                        SIRE    HERDS DAU EQ  LACTREL         MILK   FAT    FAT %      PROT  PROT % PCTILE
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                                                                                   (%)      (LB)   (LB)     (%)      (LB)    (%)

83260049 001411278 PB LAZU2BAR RDL ELLIE MAE         001218023   2    0.0      2    47       209    5.2    -0.14      6.7   -0.00    95
84870451 001366227 PB SOUTH-FORK SWEET BREEZE        001324954   1    0.0      3    47       156   10.9     0.23      5.1    0.01    96
84870451 001402328 PB SOUTH-FORK CHALUPA CHANTILLY   001180568   1    0.0      1    39       272   10.4    -0.01      7.1   -0.07    98
91830236 001338931 PB TEXAS GIRL S ZIA               001279355   1    1.4      3    50       115    9.8     0.26      6.1    0.12    97
91830236 001367697 PB LUCKY*STAR'S AV WOMEN'S WEAR   001331454   1    0.0      2    44       231    7.8    -0.05      7.6    0.01    98

91830236 001418023 PB TEXAS GIRL  WN OPAL            001390642   1    0.0      1    36       245    7.7    -0.08      7.0   -0.03    97
91850619 001472104 AM ROCKIN-CB RY ZAZZLE            001458985   1    0.0      1    39       136   12.0     0.32      7.7    0.16    98
91850619 001472108 PB ROCKIN-CB KTL ZINNIA           001352109   1    0.0      1    43       184   10.9     0.18      6.5    0.03    98
91850632 001447963 PB ALDER*ROSE EVGENI YODEL        001380050   1    0.0      2    44        77    8.2     0.26      6.0    0.18    95
91940001 001325555 PB TEMPO KRISTI                   001168624   2    8.5      3    65       168    6.1    -0.02      7.1    0.09    96

91940001 001364699 PB LUCKY*STAR'S LOT WEDGWOOD      001290537   2    5.9      3    63       202    8.0     0.01      6.9    0.02    97
91940001 001403854 PB LUCKY*STAR'S LOT XHIBIT        001290537   1    3.1      3    59       262    7.8    -0.11      7.0   -0.06    97
91940001 001470911 PB LUCKY*STAR'S LOT ZHANNA        001290537   1    0.0      1    44       172    8.4     0.08      5.8    0.02    95
91940008 001374799 PB HARMONYS WAY LOT VELVATINA     001290537   1    4.3      2    58       254    6.8    -0.13      5.9   -0.09    95
92230636 001333426 AM MOSS-RIDGE TRAVIS APHRODITE    001301386   2    0.0      4    54       219   10.3     0.09      7.2    0.01    98

92230636 001474710 AM TEMPO GANDALF EVA              001427025   1    0.0      1    35       354   15.3     0.07     14.5    0.14    99
92700198 001369715 PB TEMPO KILLY                    001352109   1    0.0      4    53       193    7.3    -0.01      6.3    0.01    95
92700198 001405741 PB TEMPO JANICA                   001301386   1    0.0      2    49       276    7.2    -0.15      8.5   -0.01    98
92700198 001440402 PB TEMPO EVIANNA                  001352109   1    1.4      2    53       232   12.2     0.15      9.9    0.12    99
92810425 001327714 AM ALDER*ROSE TEMMPEST VERONA     001297947   1    3.8      4    53        86    9.9     0.33      6.2    0.17    97

93090193 001300620 PB LUCKY*STAR'S TR TREASURE       001220700   1    4.1      3    63       341   10.4    -0.12      7.8   -0.13    99
93090193 001484641 PB VINEYARD VIEW CASSIUS ECLAIR   001256808   1    0.0      2    48       251    6.8    -0.13      6.8   -0.05    96
93090193 001499960 PB VINEYARD VIEW CASSIUS VADA     001256808   1    0.0      1    46       227    7.8    -0.04      7.2   -0.00    97
93090247 052160617                                   001280073   1    0.0      1    40       257    8.4    -0.07      6.6   -0.07    97
93090256 001424772 PB PENNY*WISE CAMEO               001373685   1    0.0      1    37       217    6.3    -0.09      6.2   -0.03    95

93100698 001267631 PB PURPLE-SAGE-FARM *P MARIGOLD   001184233   2    5.5      4    61       237    7.0    -0.10      7.8    0.01    97
93100761 001409244 PB HEART-MT.-CARTER-KIDS CHOLENA  001366352   1    0.0      2    47       219   14.9     0.30      6.4   -0.02    99
93165001 052160401                                   001235164   1    2.2      1    48       248    6.1    -0.16      7.4   -0.02    97
93165001 053782626                                   001273492   1    2.2      1    48       210   11.1     0.14      8.2    0.07    99
93165001 053782643                                   001280073   1    0.0      1    45       229    7.4    -0.07      6.6   -0.03    96

93165001 056198006                                   001365403   1    0.0      1    40       303    5.8    -0.26      7.1   -0.11    96
93165001 056198027                                   001313040   1    0.0      1    45       346    9.8    -0.16      8.5   -0.11    99
NUBIAN               USDA-DHIA GENETIC EVALUATIONS FOR TOP 5% OF DOES WITH RECENT KIDDINGS FOR NOVEMBER 2010                      11
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

       REGISTRATION                                                                         --PREDICTED TRANSMITTING ABILITIES---
  HERD    NUMBER          Name                        SIRE    HERDS DAU EQ  LACTREL         MILK   FAT    FAT %      PROT  PROT % PCTILE
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                                                                                   (%)      (LB)   (LB)     (%)      (LB)    (%)

11175182 001333511 PB GLADSTONE'S ANSWER IN THE SKY  001269628   1    0.0      4    49       149    5.8    -0.04      7.2    0.10    95
11235100 001445569 PB KASTDEMUR'S KHM MELODY         001358094   1    0.0      2    47       124    9.3     0.20      8.2    0.20    98
21135593 001251890 AM DAWNWOOD'S EMMA                001072907   1    0.0      6    53       180    5.1    -0.13      7.8    0.07    96
21135593 001396597 AM DAWNWOOD'S COCOA               001235486   1    0.0      1    39       252   10.2    -0.04      7.8   -0.05    98
21135595 001390347 AM ROSETHYME MO VELVETEEN         001293819   1    0.0      2    41       249    9.9    -0.04      8.3   -0.02    98

32225760 32GOT0226                                   001102219   1    6.4      5    61       470   12.6    -0.33     10.0   -0.28    99
33614514 001406888 PB HAZELRIDGE-ACRES GEGE'S GERTE  001311397   1    0.0      1    32       110    9.1     0.22      9.4    0.29    98
34545501 001473514 AM COZY HAVEN MADISON'S MARIAH    001305299   1    0.0      2    40       192    6.2    -0.11      6.4   -0.02    95
41215538 001481379 PB BLISSBERRY MW VALENTINA        001442915   1    0.0      1    34       189   12.3     0.20      9.2    0.13    99
41495749 001307417 RG SPARKLING-M'S GERARD TELEPHONE 001136266   1    6.6      5    65       189    6.8    -0.07      7.4    0.04    96

41495749 001416932 RG SPARKLING-M'S SAILOR KENDALL   001284988   1    0.0      3    50       188    7.0    -0.06      5.9   -0.03    95
41495749 001416935 AM SPARKLING-M'S VOICE MAIL       001351516   1    0.0      1    43       171    9.2     0.09      7.0    0.05    97
41495749 001433217 AM SPARKLING-M'S MISS CANADA      001284987   1    1.5      3    52       198    8.2    -0.02      8.5    0.08    98
41495749 001452452 AM SPARKLING-M'S AVALANCHE        001284988   1    0.0      1    40       230    9.0    -0.05      8.9    0.04    98
41495749 001471213 AM SPARKLING-M'S SOLITARE         001351516   1    0.0      1    41       220    7.6    -0.10      6.1   -0.08    95

48245012 001303134 PB HERITAGE-SONG HENRIETTA        001252247   1    0.0      4    53       158   12.3     0.27      9.8    0.21    99
52545500 001212904 PB CHRIBRYDON MAIRE'S MERLEEN     001026248   1    4.2      2    51       232   12.2     0.10     10.3    0.11    99
52545500 001368522 PB CHRIBRYDON MERLEEN'S MARIGOLD  001187404   1    2.6      2    49       236   15.0     0.23     11.3    0.15    99
55675500 001279618 PB SIX M GALAXY ISABELLE DARLENE  001209525   1    6.0      1    53       343    9.8    -0.23      8.3   -0.17    98
55675500 001389269 PB SIX M GALAXY MICK'S SHEILA     001342223   1    0.0      1    33       246    7.3    -0.16      8.3   -0.01    98

61007000 001389279 PB SIX M GALAXY OBE'S UNIQUE      001342219   2    0.0      3    46       271    9.3    -0.12     10.0    0.02    99
61007000 001389293 PB SIX M GALAXY MIDNIGHT ANGEL    001064787   2    0.0      2    45       313    7.5    -0.28      7.6   -0.16    97
61007000 001470333 PB SIX M GALAXY ECHO'S LAUREL     001342205   1    0.0      1    36       311   10.5    -0.14      8.7   -0.10    99
61645500 001283648 PB FIDELITY HILL LADY MARODDA     001208071   1    0.3      4    46       157    8.9     0.10      5.9    0.02    96
64025174 001344130 PB JUST4GOATS ABBY                001252117   1    0.0      3    44       126   10.6     0.26      6.2    0.09    97

64025174 001433015 PB SAND ROCK ACRES FANNIE DAE     001359435   1    0.0      1    33       182    9.9     0.10      4.7   -0.08    95
64995176 001400600 PB SHAKTICAP XCELLENT CHOC CANDY  001297160   1    0.0      1    30       201   12.5     0.18     14.6    0.37    99
65007001 001361043 PB AJA-SAMMATI JB GRAND SOPHY     001288722   1    2.5      3    52       167    9.7     0.12      6.0    0.01    96
65007001 001401928 PB 2-G FARM SNOW ANGEL            001366881   1    0.0      2    38       134   12.0     0.31      6.3    0.08    97
65007001 001437214 PB 2-G FARM BILOXI RIVER ISABELLE 001366881   1    0.0      1    32       149    6.9     0.02      6.0    0.04    95

73007001 001352641 PB HILL'S ACRES WZ RECITAL        001283542   2    0.0      3    47       217    6.4    -0.15      6.9   -0.04    96
73145503 001194194 PB HILL'S ACRES CHARMING EFFECTS  001171114   1    2.8      5    57       181    7.3    -0.03      6.5    0.01    96
74007002 001413237 PB LAKESHORE SH MYSTIC ALLURE     001377200   1    0.0      1    34       175    8.9     0.06      6.5    0.02    96
82830007 001304696 PB BEDOUIN DARK CRYSTAL           001300591   1    1.2      1    42       194    8.7     0.01      7.4    0.03    97
82840138 001336110 PB SAND-BUR-KIDS SLT INDEPENDENCE 001311769   1    0.0      2    46        81   13.4     0.51      6.9    0.21    98

82840138 001379509 PB IRON-OWL JEEPERS CREEPERS      001356149   1    1.3      2    43       118   13.7     0.44      5.8    0.08    98
82840138 001383193 PB IRON-OWL TOWHEE                001336530   1    0.0      2    38       158   10.2     0.16      8.3    0.14    98
82840138 001478518 PB IRON-OWL CROW'S NEST           001442781   1    0.0      1    22       192    7.7    -0.03      8.2    0.07    97
82840138 001479471 PB IRON-OWL FLYING DRAGON         001442781   1    0.0      1    25       215   13.4     0.20     10.6    0.15    99
82840143 001463988 PB OZNAYIM WSB EVE                001184217   1    0.0      1    30       193    4.1    -0.21     12.3    0.27    99

82845091 001308157 PB CHINOOK MEADOWS CO JEWEL       001273413   1    0.0      2    40       128    8.3     0.14      7.3    0.14    97
84870056 001412927 PB GOLDTHWAITE B'LOU ANGEL        001364666   1    1.5      2    46       129   10.5     0.25     12.3    0.40    99
84870056 001462185 PB GOLDTHWAITE ANGEL GABRIEL      001431971   1    0.0      1    35       244   22.4     0.56     25.8    0.82    99
NUBIAN               USDA-DHIA GENETIC EVALUATIONS FOR TOP 5% OF DOES WITH RECENT KIDDINGS FOR NOVEMBER 2010                      12
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

       REGISTRATION                                                                         --PREDICTED TRANSMITTING ABILITIES---
  HERD    NUMBER          Name                        SIRE    HERDS DAU EQ  LACTREL         MILK   FAT    FAT %      PROT  PROT % PCTILE
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                                                                                   (%)      (LB)   (LB)     (%)      (LB)    (%)

86011313 001508016 PB CROW'S DAIRY CHAR'S ONDREA     001458782   1    0.0      1    36       226    9.9     0.01      7.3   -0.03    98
86011313 001508042 PB CROW'S DAIRY KATHY'S MICHELLE  001458782   1    0.0      1    31       239   10.9     0.02      9.5    0.06    99
86019919 001313985 PB AZ APACHE VALLEY PRIDE AND JOY 001226923   1    2.2      2    45       230   10.8     0.04      8.5    0.02    98
86019975 001467846 PB BLACK MESA PARKER'S PERI       001430408   1    0.0      2    44       159   10.8     0.20      6.3    0.04    97
86019975 001477005 PB REUEL SAMIEL'S MIC MARIAH      001413410   1    0.0      1    41        82    8.8     0.27      6.3    0.18    96

87841040 001244776 AM WILLOW-LANE WISTERIA           001219780   2   13.4      6    71       153   10.2     0.18      5.6    0.02    96
87841040 001319627 AM WILLOW-LANE LIV                001219779   2   16.3      6    73       261    8.2    -0.15      9.4    0.01    98
87841040 001354642 AM WILLOW-LANE DERBY              001219780   2    3.4      4    60       158    7.9     0.05      7.8    0.11    97
87841040 001354648 AM WILLOW-LANE ONEIDA             001328280   2    0.0      2    48       175    8.2     0.03      7.7    0.08    97
87841040 001449008 AM WILLOW-LANE LUV                001335341   1    0.0      3    54       195    8.2    -0.01      7.4    0.03    97

87841040 001459383 AM WILLOW-LANE JUDITH             001328280   1    0.0      2    47       172    8.1     0.03      6.4    0.02    96
87841040 001491489 PB WILLOW-LANE GAIL               001397032   1    0.0      2    47       157    8.6     0.09      5.8    0.02    95
87841040 001502449 AM WILLOW-LANE MALDA              000515068   1    0.0      1    47       225   10.0     0.01      7.0   -0.04    97
87841040 001505696 AM WILLOW-LANE JABOE              001393692   1    0.0      1    41       217    6.9    -0.12      6.7   -0.04    96
87841040 001531614 AM WILLOW-LANE MONMOTHMA          000938687   1    0.0      1    50       244    7.5    -0.15      8.1   -0.02    98

87841040 001531615 AM WILLOW-LANE LAVENDER           000938687   1    0.0      1    50       234    6.3    -0.18      7.4   -0.04    96
91840504 001383231 PB MY-ENCHANTED-ACRES LADY BLAISE 001340357   1    0.0      3    47        82   12.4     0.46      4.5    0.08    95
91840509 001441671 PB JUST AS I AM PRECIOUS KEEPSAKE 001218464   1    0.0      2    47       120   11.0     0.29      5.0    0.04    95
91850604 001291245 PB REUEL ZEPHYR'S EK SAMIEL       000988106   1   10.6      6    68        99   10.2     0.30      7.5    0.21    98
91850604 001368198 PB REUEL SAMIEL'S EXP SHARIK      001326412   1    0.0      4    53        62    9.0     0.33      6.0    0.20    95

91850632 001447962 PB K-N-H RANCH SB YARROW          001412255   1    0.0      1    42        50   11.0     0.47      5.2    0.18    95
91850632 001447966 AM K-N-H RANCH SB YOSHIKANO       001412255   1    0.0      1    38        45    9.0     0.37      5.5    0.21    95
91850632 001491851 PB K-N-H RANCH SB ZSA ZSA         001412255   1    0.0      1    39        49    9.7     0.40      5.9    0.22    96
91860390 001462548 PB REMUDA SONSET TALULA           001253010   1    0.0      1    40        91    9.0     0.26      7.8    0.24    97
93090193 001241522 AM OCEAN FOGG FARMS ECHO'S CLEO   001233390   1    2.0      5    60       209   12.0     0.14      7.2   -0.00    98

93090193 001259269 AM REDWOOD HILLS SPECIAL GABI     001179133   1    0.0      5    55       272   11.1    -0.03      9.1   -0.02    99
93090193 001264555 AM REDWOOD HILLS SPECIAL DEVORA   001179133   1   15.9      6    72       260    9.7    -0.08      9.5    0.02    99
93090193 001479661 AM REDWOOD HILLS TALENTED DEMURE  001412687   1    0.0      2    50       290   17.1     0.21     10.6    0.02    99
93090193 001499119 AM REDWOOD HILLS TALENTED DANIKA  001412687   1    0.0      1    47       237   13.8     0.17      9.7    0.07    99
93090193 001499129 AM REDWOOD HILLS TALENTED DELIGHT 001412687   1    0.0      1    45       142    8.0     0.09      6.7    0.09    96

93090231 001342233 PB SIX M GALAXY NOEL'S HOLLY      001064787   1    0.0      3    48       410   13.3    -0.20     13.1   -0.05    99
93090231 001389252 PB SIX M GALAXY OBE'S BELLA       001342219   1    1.4      2    46       321    7.6    -0.29      6.7   -0.21    96
93090231 001389268 PB SIX M GALAXY MICK'S SUE        001342223   1    1.3      2    45       248    6.8    -0.19      8.3   -0.02    97
93090231 001389272 PB SIX M GALAXY HERMIONE'S TONKS  001342205   1    0.0      2    44       199    8.6    -0.00      7.5    0.03    97
93090247 052160625                                   001273492   1    0.0      1    43       370   10.8    -0.24      9.0   -0.18    99

93090247 052160647                                   001273492   1    0.0      1    37       325    8.3    -0.27      6.9   -0.21    97
93090251 001327509 PB DRY-CREEK-HOLLOW SUPER VASHTI  000293134   1    5.2      5    66       296   15.9     0.14     11.4    0.05    99
93090251 001380694 PB DRY-CREEK-HOLLOW BOY WASHOE    001351430   1    1.3      3    52       172    8.8     0.06      5.5   -0.02    95
93090251 001432122 PB OAK-GOLD MARISSA MIA           001283601   1    3.3      2    50       144    9.3     0.15      6.0    0.05    96
93090251 001435417 PB BONNIE BLUE FARM BB FOX        001202891   1    0.0      2    50       160   11.5     0.23      7.2    0.08    98

93090292 001233887 PB WINGWOOD FARM GRACEFUL TESSA   000810616   1   12.2      5    69       290   14.9     0.11     10.0   -0.01    99
93090292 001265573 PB WINGWOOD FARM KR TAIPEI        001177615   1    5.4      6    63       170   14.3     0.34      8.7    0.14    99
93090292 001442299 PB WINGWOOD FARM AD TASSAJARA     001336243   1    0.0      2    48       225   13.9     0.20      7.3   -0.03    98
NUBIAN               USDA-DHIA GENETIC EVALUATIONS FOR TOP 5% OF DOES WITH RECENT KIDDINGS FOR NOVEMBER 2010                      13
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in this data we see no Blissberry but see Six M Galexy for Nov.2010.There will be leaders for the whole of 2010 to be published later.

[mikey]

Back to the topic of breeding.The main reason why I posted the information from the ADGA was to try and show that breeding is more science than anything else.Top breeders in N.America do their homework and try and select the best future breeding bucks or does to infuse into their own herds to improve their herd overall.The information we use comes from knowing many breeders and attenting goat shows and looking up information from the ADGA before making decisions on which bloodline will help produce the best for our business.

In the Philippines only Alaminos has done testing into milk production,milk fat and protein.To try and understand their PTAs,PTI and PT% is not possible do to limited information.In truth PTAs,PTIs, and PT% is not of any advantage in the Philippines until more farms are tested and more information is published.There is also ETA.In time these will become much more important when more data is published.I have posted information about this exciting industry in the Philippines to try and help people understand what we do here in N.America with our goat industry.The industry will move forward quicker with those in the know posting what knowledge they have instead of keeping this knowledge only for their own farm(s).

Language terms:
I posted what PTAs mean
PTIs-production type index-genetic indexes that combine production and type genetic evaluations into one score.First number emphasizes production over type and the second emphasizes type over production.Zero would be no change.    Example would look something like this 133    (2.1)    134 (1.2)

PT%-predicted transmitting ability percentage.Milk fat (07) and milk protein (o4).Dates are the last calculation,the first is production and the second is type.The 44R is this line is for production reliability.      Example would look like this   44R reliability   6/99   .07     .04   1/01

ETA-estimated transmitting ability,estimate of a bucks future PTAs as an index for production and type.Production is first,type is second.Zero is no change.Example would look like this       19 (production)          -29 (type)

A production pedigree gives statistical information that is available for a goat by tracking the records of all his or her close relatives that have records.


The science from breeding comes from trying to predict what is the best bloodline to breed to your bloodline and produce future offspring that will add commercial value for your dairy operation.

For those who believe breeding is more of an art,producing good looking goats that have poor milk production adds no commercial value to any dairy operation other than having a family pet of selling the offspring for the meat industry.

[Mustang Sally Farm]

mustang sally farm is mikey and all future postings will now be under mustang sally farm.

[Mustang Sally Farm]

According to a friend of mine from Panay,seems there is alot of questions being asked about the import order of PL480 and to who and what farm these goats have been sent to.Seems some have gone to members of the goat federation and to some others but the total numbers have not been accounted for.Also called into question is why some areas have not received any of these goats.This whole program is clouded in mystery.

As a person with years of breeding experience and owner of some fine breeding/show investment stock I can tell you one thing forsure.Placing top bloodlines in the hands of unknown breeders with unproven track records is a disaster in the making.I have seen fine bloodlines here in N.America in the hands of unexperienced breeders with poor management practices and the yearlings (12 months old) never reached the 40-45 kg weight that they should be at for that age.Here in N.America the average yearling for a nubian is 40-45kg. in 12 months for the purposes of breeding.I doubt if the RP has reached this weight class so far for a dairy breed.It will be interesting to see how these blodlines pan out,my gut feeling tells me many of these goats will never reach their full potential.I believe even the Govt. has very little experience when it comes to breeding and what it takes to breed superior animals from scratch.

I wonder if these farms will be held accountable for any deaths why under their management or will the taxpayer have to pay for any losses.Will the goat federation hold its members accountable for any losses under their care???Many,many unanswered questions and so much money to be repaid back to the US Govt. with interest.And can the RP compete with the Chinese goat market.China is the largest goat producer in Asia.So many questions and so little time.

[Mustang Sally Farm]

I have been asked about my personal opinion about PL480 and the giving out of these stocks to those who have received them.And this is my take.
When I started my farm with goats back in 2005 I brought in many,many years experience with breeding livestock and a network of people worldwide to consult with.I did not start from ground zero like many have.
-I would say that many of these stocks will be dead,sick or skin and bones within 6-12months because of the lack of proper management practices,why, because dairy animals are prone to mastitis and milk fever and many will not be able to handle this when it happens,lack of real world experience working with dairy animals.
-all of these animals are use to a diet of dried alfalfa hay,high in protein and calcium.What native feed plants in the RP can compare to alfalfa is not fully understood as of yet.I believe malunggay and mulberry shows real promise.Here in N.America we feed our stocks with bagged concentrates to give our stocks the proper protein and mineral mix along with dried hay.The cut and carry method in the RP is mostly green feeds sometimes dried for a day or so.
-the observation that I have made, is that imported animals no matter how great their lineage or bloodlines are perform poorly when moved into a climate that is so different from the one they came from.From what we know now is that these stocks become the foundation for future offsprings that when selected for the next phase of breeding have a better chance of becoming something really good.Many of these fine imported bloodlines under PL480 will never amount to anything good to speak of under some of the management practices I see going on in the RP.
-when it comes to livestock breeding,nothing is a given,sometimes only heartache and misery follows.I learned this as one of the first to line-breed nubians in the RP.After spending 5 years to improve our does the gains were so small that all the time and monies spent was not worth the little gains made.Our nubians as I reported were better suited as meat over dairy.
-the understanding in the RP as to what a dairy goat should look like is not understood by most in the country.The few foreign owned farms have a better understanding over the native owned farms in this matter.The old saying, knowing what to fix instead of putting a band aid on hoping for a tempory fix.Most of the dairy does in the RP are really in poor shape and trying to take these poor does and breed them with better bloodlines to improve milk is a tempory fix.In the real world one breeds to correct the body before thinking about milk production.
-did anyone from the da,bai,goat raiser assoc,govt. even take into account the body faults of the native nubians in country first and then go to the US and select bloodlines that can correct all the faults first before considering milk production.Experienced breeders know first hand, before milk production one needs the correct body type.Experienced breeders also know some bloodlines cross poorly when not bred with a bloodline of equal value.
-considering that for every 1000 live heads imported from the US, the RP must repay appox. P78,000,000 million in the next 10 years and the tax payer will be on the hook for this debt.
-lets hope the tax payer can realize some real value here.

[Mustang Sally Farm]

Food Index and what may be coming in the next few months.Remember the food crisis worldwide back in 2008.All reports are showing a return for 2011.
One index is the rising price of oil worldwide.This usually means a rise in transportation followed by a rise in fertilizer which means a rise in livestock feeds and finally the consumer who is left scrambling to find the best affordable protein value to feed their families with the budgets that most have when it comes to food for the table.

The customer is king and when the consumer no longer supports one section of the livestock industry the demand drops while the producers costs of operation rise but cannot realize higher prices at the gate.Demand drops and more animals become surplus,slaughter numbers drop in one section but will rise in another as the consumer is shopping shopping around for the best value.

The food index for China and India is showing almost rising daily prices along with inflation.When prices become too expensive the consumer will start to voice their concerns and no Govt. wants to see civil unrest in the streets.The added pressure on the respected Govt. to subsidize foods becomes even greater adding to more borrowing.

Will be interesting to see what happens in 2011 with respect to expected rising food prices worldwide.Could be touch and go for producers once livestock feeds become too expensive and some will be forced to close shop and ride out the wave.

[Mustang Sally Farm]

Old-Fashioned Goat Milk Soap

By Suzy Hassler 

Several years ago soap was not an item to be picked up at the local store. It was handmade on the farm, utilizing ingredients available in those days gone by. My great-grandmother in the old country would save fat from butchering hogs for a year, then clean it and use it for soap. She also made her own lye by dripping water through the ashes left from the hearth. Luckily, we can purchase fat and lye from the store, and though we can purchase ready-to-use soap there too, it's also fun and relatively easy to make soap at home, just like it used to be. Making soap can be a dangerous undertaking and young children should never be allowed in the same room where soap is being made. Lye is a caustic agent and safety procedures must be followed when making homemade soap. Be sure to use rubber gloves, eye protection, and counter protection. With precautions taken, making soap can be a fun and creative activity, and a good way to make use of extra goat milk! Homemade goat milk soaps are great for gift-giving and many people with sensitive skin find that goat milk soap can be a soothing alternative to commercially prepared products.

Supplies needed:

13 cups of fat (104 ounces)
1 pound pure lye (Rooto or similar brand) also called sodium hydroxide, 1/2 cup honey
1 cup hot water
4 cups chilled liquid (could be all goat milk, or a combination of goat milk and water or herbal tea)
Scent and coloring (optional--available at soap making suppliers)
A soap mold (available online or could be something as simple as a box lined with freezer paper--it must be something the lye won't eat through).

Prior to starting, freeze water in several plastic soda bottles. These will be used to stir the hot mixture.

Into a bowl, dissolve the honey in one cup of hot water; set aside to cool.

In a stainless steel pan in the sink, slowly add the lye to the 4 cups of cold liquid, stirring with a frozen water bottle. This should take up to 45 minutes to slowly add the whole amount of lye. This causes heat, so the water bottles will have to be changed several times.

Meanwhile, melt the fats on the stove (on low) in another stainless steel pan. For my 104 ounces, I like to use two cans of Crisco shortening, which leaves me 8 ounces to account for. I like to use something good for the skin for the additional ounces, such as olive oil.

While the fats are melting, it's time to prepare the soap molds by coating them with mineral oil. The molds can be wood, plastic, or enamel.

Add the cooled honey water into the lye pot. When all of the lye has been dissolved, and all of the oils have melted, and both pans have cooled enough to pick up bare-handed, they should be of similar temperatures to be able to combine. With a large wooden spoon, slowly stir the lye mixture into the oil pot, stirring constantly. A portable mixer or stick blender, used exclusively for soap making, is ideal. Stir in the scent and stir to trace (meaning it just starts to thicken up).

Quickly pour into the prepared molds and leave them undisturbed overnight. Clean all utensils with hot water and liquid soap. After 24 hours, unmold the soap and set out of the way to cure for six weeks. Once fully cured, the lye has been neutralized and the soap is ready for use. Now label, package and distribute!

Suzy Hassler, Sutton, Nebraska, has raised dairy goats with her husband, Butch, for over 25 years. They have been 4-H leaders and show and milk several different breeds of dairy goats. This recipe was first published in The Little Book of Goat Crafts, a fundraiser of the Nebraska Dairy Goat Association, by Betty Pecka and Suzy Hassler. The book is available at www.freewebs.com/nebraskadairygoat.

 

[Mustang Sally Farm]

The only real information from the RP showing a 305 days lactation,comes from Alaminos Goat Farm.How many others will be able to match this is an unknown?Maybe sometimes we try too hard to follow the N.American experience when it comes to dairy.At this point in time, I will say we are looking closer to the dairy industry experience in India.The dairy goats in India lactate for approx. 240-260 days average,8-8-1/2 months.This might be a more realistic goal for some of us who wish to venture into the dairy business with goats.The 5-6 months of lactation would be hard to make money at and 10 months might be out of reach for some of us,something in between seems more achievable in the long run.Maybe a good starting point and work up from there.A bloodline is only as good as the environment it is living in.Any top bloodline living in an environment that is questionable will have questionable results.On the other hand,some breeds are much more productive over other dairy breeds and crossbreeds have been known to become decent producers,but their offspring(s) command lower prices over the purebreeds.It will be interesting to follow the growth of dairy RP and see which breed(s) prove themselves in the milk lineup.

[Mustang Sally Farm]

Philippines - Sheep goata and cattle 28 Jan 2011
 The Bureau of Animal Industry (BAI) is set to carry out a three-year Genetic Improvement Program (GIP) that may bring in 6,000 breeders of sheep and goat and 1,030 heads of cattle to be financed under PL 480.The GIP may become one of the major programs of Department of Agriculture (DA)-attached BAI as part of implementing a new roadmap that it will plan out together with the private sector.

 

 

“The private sector wants us to have a genetic improvement that will raise the quality of our breeds. We have a budget of P167 million for this for three years under PL 480,” said BAI Director Efren C. Nuestro in an interview.
 
 
 
 
The government has set on January 13 and 14 a planning session for the small and large ruminants even as two association have already filed with BAI their proposal for the growth an expansion of the industry. These are the Federation of Cattle Raisers Association of the Philippines (FCRAP) and a growers’ association for goat and sheep.
 
 
 
 
 
Based on the initial proposals, genetic improvement comes out to be a top priority for the private sector as this would raise the quality and volume of yield of meat from the animals. Among the possible sources of importation for breeder goats and sheep are the United States and Australia while usual breeder cattle import sources are New Zealand and Brazil. The government is intervening on genetic improvement of sheep and goat as their meats are known to be gourmet food raw materials.
 
 
 
 
 
Besides, government has been trying to develop new innovative cuts, recipes, and products from sheep’s lamb (chops) and from goat’s meat known as chevon or mutton.
 
 
 
 
 
When pushed through, the plan for breeder importation for goat and sheep for the next three years will just about match the country’s breeder importation over five years from 2005 to 2009. This totaled to 6,800 heads consisting of 5,261 heads of goats and 1,539 heads of sheep. For breeder cattle, the Philippines brought in a total of 3,919 heads from 2005 to 2009.
 
 
 
 
 
Nuestro said BAI will also try to consolidate plans for the hog and poultry sectors either through a proposed roadmap and through continuous consultation.
 
 
 
 
 
National Federation of Hog Farmers Durian Tan and United Broiler and Raisers Association Gregorio San Diego both believe government should focus its program on a strict policy on importation of pork and chicken meat and on bringing down cost of production of feeds.
 
 
 
 
 
Chicken meat importation soared significantly to 92 million kilos in 2010 from only 67 million kilos in 2009 and even lower at 47 million kilos in 2009, while pork importation similarly rose sharply to 172 million kilos which must have unduly hurt these farming sectors.
 
 
 
 
 
Broiler raisers have been asking government to abolish the Minimum Access Volume which allows for lower tariff for imported agricultural products including poultry and pork.
 
 
 
 
Nuestro said government also looks forward to potential industry expansion from the declaration of the entire Philippines as a foot and mouth disease (FMD)-free country perhaps by the second quarter of the year.
 
 
 
 
 
The Office International des Epizooties (OIE) just has to review final documents from the Philippines particularly the FMD-free status of Central Luzon, the last remaining area to be certified FMD-free without vaccination.
 
 
 
 
This certification should open up opportunities for the Philippines to export more hog and hog products.
 
Source: Google news

[alaminos_goatfarm]

Why Only Now  with the Alaminos Mitra Saanen (AMS) Cross ?

Three years ago in 2008, it entered our mind to cross our Mitra Line and Saanen goats to produce a cross bred Alaminos Mitra Saanen (AMS) milking goats. Consulting our friend Dr. Synan Baguio of PCARRD, we were encouraged to proceed. The initial progenies of the AMS cross were very fast growers showing signs of heterosis. At that time a lot of things were in our mind, with the huge investment in goat raising, we have to make a business decision which would give us faster return on investment; the Boers, Saanen, the Mitra line or the AMS cross.

In their first lactation the AMS cross were just average doing 2.2 liters of milk daily. We sold most of them to friends. One satisfied customer was Nestor Non of Oyibo Goat Farm in Lian, Batangas, he was very happy with the performance of the AMS cross he got from us. This year Nestor was again looking for more AMS cross but we have to say no because we have committed to Mr. Cecilio Pedro of Hapee Tooth Paste. He is setting up a dairy project for his foundation in Laguna. His foundation is geared to help the deaf mute by providing them with education and livelihood opportunities through trainings in their school facility in Laguna..

This year an outstanding prototype for the AMS cross, AMS 001 was placed in the milking line for daily recording of milk produced. The past 30 days,  AMS 001 has been averaging over 3.5 liters per day. For a first lactating dairy goat it is quite impressive.
 
The decision to delay the full time breeding of the AMS cross in 2008 was a business decision based on the following reason:

1. The buckling produced out of the AMS cross would be sold for the slaughter market which   
    commands a lower price compared with the breeder buck of the Mitra Line.
2.  Need time to test milk performance and length of lactation period

Displaying the meat type  Mitra Line buckling at  the Agri Link Show in 2008 created a big break  for the Mitra Line. Zac Sarian, the Philippines  top agricultural writer  saw the Mitra Line on display at the Agri Link Show. It started his fascination with the Mitra Line. He started writing about it  regularly in his column in the Manila Bulletin and Agricultural Magazine. This created a lot of media exposure for the Mitra Line and push the demand for ML breeders at an all time high. Every where we go people were asking us ” ano ba yong Mitra Line na lagging sinusulat ni Zac Sarian sa column niya ?”

In 2009, we decided to prioritize the Mitra Line breeding program over the AMS program. The decision was well taken and proved to be very good for AGF in terms of profitability with the MITRA Line bucks being sold out every year. As a breeder the bench mark of a successful breeder operation is how fast you sell your bucks.

This year we have decided to include the AMS program in our priority. To address the problem  of economic viability we will put a premium in price for the AMS doelings sold. The AMS doelings that would pass our criteria for dairy milkers would be  tagged with an orange AMS tag and priced at Php 20,000 pesos per head. For pregnant AMS doelings an additional P 1,500 pesos would be charged. This would compensate the selling of the AMS buckling as slaughter goat for the meat market. The AMS doelings would be available on a limited basis during the last quarter.

To our friends and customers we request for a little more of your patience. It is taking us a little more time to come up with the commercial numbers of dairy milking goat for sale. The longer it takes us to start selling in commercial numbers gives us more time to test which family is better suited to the tropical environment of the Philippines.

Come 2012 we will start selling dairy goats which comes from the very same family  of dairy goats that have given us good returns in our dairy goat operation. They have provided the Metro Manila market with the highly successful Alaminos Milk Star Fresh goat’s milk for the past  three years.

[Mustang Sally Farm]

Raising meat goats, a few tips that might help those of you that are thinking about this side of the industry.One should always plan ahead the nutritional needs of the goat breeds you own on your farm.One common mistake made by newcomers or rookies is trying to produce as many litters as possible without knowing the possible disasters that might follow,high death rates of kids due to over excessive breeding,disease and other problems relating to adult goats in the herd.In turn,this might place a greater financial hardship for additional feeds,medications and vet visits.

Try and plan your kidding time,goats gestate for 5 months which is ample time to prepare everything to ensure the doe goats remain in peak condition.
Flushing,1 month before the actual mating,feed the does a richer diet intake.This is used to try and get the does to produce a higher number of kids.Before mating, a good practice to follow is to deworm and vaccinate the does in the hope they will carry their pregnancies to full term.Abortions have been known due to heavy worm loads.

Some goat meat producers try and make the does raise 2 litters within the mating period.First you would need to breed early and wean the first kids early on to encourage the does to return to heat again.In most cases,the 2nd litters usually produce fewer kids.Always remember,the health of the baby goats is paramount.One decision one has to face,the culling of sick kids,ask yourself,is it really worth it to me to try and restore the health of sickly kids,or is it just throwing good money after bad.Sometimes tough decisions must be made to protect the producers best interest.Always check to make sure the does are in good health and in good body condition.Always seperate your pregnant does from dry does.Expecting does should have their own kidding pens.Check to make sure the kids suckle so they may acquire the necessary antibodies from their dams.

This is a good start,best of luck with your new venture,you too are now a goat meat producer.

[Mustang Sally Farm]

The topic of forage feeds is an ongoing subject.Once the meat goat producers get a better handle of which forages will have a positive effect on our goats, this will go along ways to help the meat producers lower our overhead when it comes to feed costs.With the rising lndex,concentrates will become even more expensive as time goes by.This is not good news for those of us who depend on concentrates to keep our stock healthy.I hope in time,some more studies will be done which will allow us producers to have the understanding on which plants will help us the most.The size of the bag might be important if using the vacuum cleaner to pull the air out before sealing the bag shut.In the near future,looks like more expences for feed and less profits for the producers.

[Mustang Sally Farm]

If country has no restrictions when it comes to registering goats back to the ABGA,American Boer Goat Assoc.I guess one would have to be a member first and follow the rules of the organization,would it be worthwhile.I understand there might be a boer register already in the Philippines.Should someone have a boer that is registered to one of the boer registeries in the US,would it make more sense to register the offspring back to a registery in the US or not.I guess the same could be said for dairy goats,would it make more sense to register the offspring back to the ADGA if the owner was a member.I was just wondering what those with paperwork will do with the offsprings that will follow.

I have had an interest in the 3 way rotational cross for a number of years now for meat goats.One needs 3 males from different breeds.I am not sure if anyone has bred a native buck to lets say a dairy breed and then bred the offspring females to another buck of a different breed and then bred those offspring females to the 3rd buck breed.A bo-ang is really a crossbreed,not sure if one could call this a breed but I think a bo-ang instead of a native buck might prove interesting.The 3 bucks are known as P1,P2 and P3.P1 could be a nubian and P2 could be a bo-ang and P3 would be a boer.The end result is still cross/hybrids but with more hybrid vigor.

I guess it would be safe to say,the 3 way cross in the Philippines would really be a 2 way rotational cross,only 2 bucks of different breeds are used to produce a meat goat.I am sure as time goes on,there will be different combinations of breeding to produce a new meat breed with better hybrid vigor over the purebreeds,hardy with good growth and good mothering ability.

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A hugh announcement was made this month from Ontario Canada.The Govt. and private sectors will team up and share research on goat production both for dairy and meat.This tells me that someone, somewhere believes goats and their related products are the new wave livestock for the future.Goat milk is much more common now and goat meat,red meat is on the rise worldwide.It is believed there are approx. 800 million heads of goats worldwide.If a country like Canada now believes that goats are a going concern for both domestic and export markets then the Philippines is in prime position to take any/all advantages for her own domestic and export markets for value added products.The west has winters and nothing grows,livestock are fed on diets of dry matter where as in the Philippines there is only the dry period but forage crops can still be produced.Alaminos has showen that a dairy goat industry is not only possible but profitable under tropical conditions with the right forage feeds and management.With the Govt. program under PL 480 and from the private sector better and better genetics are now entering the breeding programs and in time with these island born offspring coming into milking mode and with more testing the Philippines may very well become a model for dairy goat production throughout Asia.Its only a matter of time before someone or some farm  will produce milking goats designed to milk well under a tropical setting.Alaminos seems to be on the right track with their breeding program and many,many more will follow with something they too have bred for the dairy industry.The worldwide demand for goat products are there and a agriculture society like the Philippines has the potential to take advantage of any markets opened up to her.The Chinese market has a void to fill as her masses leaves the countryside for jobs in the cities,people still have to eat and we know with a rising middle class,more money to spend on better quality foods for the table.Goats seem to be the new livestock for the farming sector,require less land,food and water.As long as diseases can be managed,the potential for goats has a bright future.The same holds true for goat meat.Improvements in breeding either purebreeds or cross/hybrids are helping push this side of the industry into new heights.

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Recorded Grades Find Favor with Many Dairy Goat Breeders

By Janet Hurst 

Recorded Grade goats are defined by the International Dairy Goat Registry as: "Those goats having little or no information available on their ancestry or of their ancestry were not registered, then the goat can be recorded as Grade. The application process to register a grade animal requires identification of the breed the animal most represents, a photo and available background information on the animal. If the animal is found to conform to the breed standards for its age and gender but has no registered ancestors, it will be entered in the Grade herdbook as Recorded by Appearance."

Many breeders favor the Recorded Grades for a variety of reasons. Most notably, selective breeding for specific traits or breeding for the elimination of identified weaknesses. Silvia and Nancy Shirley have become well known for their herd consisting of Alpines, LaManchas, Grades and one Mini Mancha. The Shirleys are located in Arkansas and their herd, "Harmony Goats," has become well-known in competitive circles at Missouri and Arkansas shows.

"We want our goats to show and milk well," Silvia Shirley said. "I find the grades versatile and interesting. We have one that is half LaMancha and half Saanen. She has the LaMancha personality but milks like a Saanen. With Recorded Grades you can get the best of two breeds. Sometimes you get a better quality animal than a purebred. To me some of the grades are more productive. Also, you never know what you are going to get, colorwise or ear wise, which makes it fun."

 

Recorded Grade dairy goats come in a wide variety of colors and types. Silvia Shirley, Flippin, Arkansas, enjoys the freedom from breeding for specific color and ear correctness and instead likes to concentrate on pairing genetics for milk production and structure with her herd of Recorded Grade dairy goats.
Photos provided by Harmony Goats Farm, raising quality LaMancha and Grade dairy goats, www.freewebs.com/harmonygoats
 

 
 

Hybrid vigor is a factor in the consideration of Recorded Grade dairy goats. "Heterosis," hybrid vigor or outbreeding enhancement, describes the increased strength of various characteristics in hybrids. As Shirley mentioned, the superior characteristics of two breeds can be combined to create one animal with traits of both breeds. Selective breeding research is currently in progress all over the world, with goats being bred for superior conformations, udder formation, stature, milk production and butterfat content. Parasite resistance is also a point of research within theses selective breeding programs. Combining the best of both breeds can result in offspring which is superior to both parents.

Silvia Shirley started with dairy goats as a 4-H project wth a Grade LaMancha. Noted traits such as "airplane ears," found in Nubian crosses, are evident in her herd. She has also found the earless appearance of LaManchas to be a dominant characteristic in her crossbred kids. However, she, like most breeders who raise Recorded Grades, feels the trade-off in the classic breed standard appearances is worth the increased production and overall increase in hardiness of the animal. It makes for an interesting kidding season as well, as one is never sure what the result of crossbreeding dairy goats might be.

The Harmony goat owners follow a strict CAE prevention program by removing the kids from their dams at birth and feeding them heat treated and pasteurized colostrum and milk. A diet of locally grown grass hay also provides nutrition. Shirley's award winning stock can be seen on her website at www.freewebs.com/harmonygoats.