Maybe mr Mikey is just busy . Yeah it is quiet here.  No much post. Yesterday is a holiday here in the philippines thats way even in my PM or email there is no much request.

ok check your email

Sir you can check the gallery section under ng swine picture nag add ako ng mga bagong feeder dun

Sir jun pakicheck email nila

You could try the site of maysancasting.ph

Design wise ala  akong available eh.

Would try to create one and post it here.

Medyo busy lang kaya baka mtagalan ng konti.

The possible thing i could say it is grain overload or bloat. The only change you say that happen is feed intake. You gave it concentrate and sudden change of concentrate specially to corn barley or wheat can cause grain overload. Bloat in the other hand is the most common cause of sudden death in goat.

A third possibility is poisoning but if only one died and everybody received the concentrate then it is not the cause.

Forth possibility is hardware disease, this when a ruminant have eaten nail, wire, etc that pierced its intestine and bleed inside until he die.

Goat polio is not an over night problem it is gradual. It would take maybe days until the animal die or to some does not die at all.

This is the official statement of the Gen Santos City Vet. We would like to thanks them for their reply.

 I have emailed many government agency regarding different matters and almost 90% they do not reply back.  To Gen San people be proud of your local government. They are really there to serve the people.

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October 5, 2007
 
 
THE HONORABLE PEDRO B.  ACHARON, JR.
City Mayor
General Santos City
 
 
                        Thru     : ERNESTO V. QUISAY, SR.
                                      Chief of Staff
 
 
SIR:
 
Magandang GENSAN!
 
This is in response to CN 125618 or CMO-LRB-IND2007-2510 re: Goat Polio Problem.
 
The Office of the City Veterinarian would like to inform that there is no such disease as Goat Polio in General Santos City. Based on our disease surveillance in commercial and backyard raisers of goat, there was no occurrence of such disease. Trading of goats and chevon in our city are still going on.
 
Further, smuggling of goats from Indonesia is very impossible. We have superior quality breed of goats compared to neighboring islands of Indonesia. We have also bigger goat population and it is impractical for us to import from Indonesia.
 
We hope that this official statement from our office will clear the alleged issue.
 
 
Very truly yours,
 
 
DR. ANTONIO EPHREM S. MARIN
CGDH II

[720 pesos]

They say that only the middle man earn in swine raising. So i created this post to give side to the middle man.  When i was in the field i sometimes ask question to the drivers of this middleman. and this is some that i have unearth.

If they buy an 80 kilos pig at 75 pesos they will incur an investment of 6000 pesos.  And when this is slaughtered it will have around 80% dress percentage. So 80 kg x .8 = 64 kg. This 64 kg will be sold and let as assume it would cost 105  per kilo.  So, it will generate a  6720 sales or 720 profit.

Summary:

80 kgs    x    75 pesos    =6000
x.8 dress percentage     
64 kg     x     105 pesos=  6720
net of=                           720 pesos

Transpo would be 1000, 400 labor

Then =50 to 200 slaughter fee

Assume  they have 10 pigs x720 profit=7200
-                                                1000  transpo cost
10 x 200 slaughter fee                        2000=slaughter fee
                                                   400= labor
total       net                                     3600 for a 12 hours work

 Yes 3600 per night is still a big money.  But if we compute it would only mean that they earn around 360 per pig.

What are the risk:

1.   Because of the competition they have to give credits to store owner. They will be paid a day or two (worst case sometimes it goes up to a week.)
2.   Holdup, an approximate of 3 incidences per month for central Luzon and it increases usually if election is nearing. Do not know why?
3.   Death of animal. If the animal die before it reaches the slaughterhouse then it is considered as condemned.
4.   If there is luck of supply of animal. The profit margin would be also small.
5.   If you were dealing with big meat processor it would take sometimes a month before they pay you.
6.   Bribery, you need to bribe checkpoint etc.
7.   If  monitoring agency think that one of your hogs have FMD , they will confiscate that particular hog , kill it and burn it.

I'm not taking side but:

In most incidence hog raisers will always say that it is the meat dealers, feed manufacturer, middle man who only earn.  But I do believe it is not the real case. We all earn in one way or another.  If you will ask a semi commercial or even big farms they will say that it is a cycle. There are times that they earn there are times they don’t. And that is business. You cannot find a business that all year round will earn. Being the middleman, feed dealer, feed manufacturer is not a walk in the park. They attained that position/business because they have triumph over adversaries. So, as backyard raiser we must also jump over the hurdle.

How to do it:

Backyard raiser do earn but to earn more then be the middleman ( most of the time we are just clamoring because we are at the other end of the stick.). 

Sell your products directly to restaurant owners.

Or create or join a cooperative that have their meat processing plant.

 Or organized your barangay or cities backyard raisers and ask them not to sell their produce lower than this price etc. In this way you will have a uniform liveweight pricing. But be aware that it could back fire at you.  Middle man might just go to other place to look for hogs.

Learn meat processing technique and sell your produce to consumer or supermarket.

Put a stall in the supermarket.

Best of all do not support feed company who have meat processing facility but do not buy your produce even though you are a customer of their feed company.

Correct me or post your ideas.

Please check your mail

Mr hog, i do believe we are just all lost in translation here.

I do believe the word "racism" here is not intended to be in a mean way.

Hope everybody would stay.

After defeating Barrera who do you think would be the most suitable opponent for Manny "Pacman " Pacquio?

Like i said, we could request them to post in english but it does not mean that this would be an english only forum.

Tagalog will always be welcome and it is up to me nalang to translate it if needed especially if the topic is interesting.

Mikey do not wory about your english, me too having problem with it sometimes.

Yeah, maybe they are shy.

I am thinking to make a raffle, One swine manual/book will be raffled per month only those posted on that particular month will qualify.

Yeah, actually most of our new registrant are newbie or those who want to be in swine business.

One day we could have our group of raiser also here.

It is a matter of advertising.

I intentionally did not post on the other board about this forum because i want the other board to be neutral.
And i want this board to have its own set of members. So, most of our registrant are newbie.

It is ok to get new members.

And also we could request them to post in english, for the benefit of others.

Actually i am trying to make our site more visible in the internet.

I would start another wave of advertising by november or december that includes print media in the philippines. I am planning to upgrade this website so i could post exclusive videos articles etc in this site.

We will also build a directory of agricultural product manufacturer, breeders etc.

We will grow slowly but surely 

In fact every month there have been increasing member registration.  The only problem now is how to encourage them to ask question. For in asking question every body would benefit. Everybody could read their inquiries and also the answers given not only by me but everybody here in the forum.