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LIVESTOCKS / SWINE / Re: market place
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on: November 23, 2007, 11:42:36 AM
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No spots avalible.I would have to go there and bargain with them to sell and that could be real expensive.Me being a white guy hehe.
i understand 
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LIVESTOCKS / SWINE / Re: price per kg
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on: November 23, 2007, 11:25:01 AM
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price right now is going up baka next week 90 na dyan sa inyo bro  I hope so bro. I've been reading your post on the other thread about mixing feeds. I may have to engage in formulating my own as well. A 2nd hand 5 bagger mixer is being offered at a bargain price of 25k. I intend to buy it and do some trials. madali lang po mag gawa ng 25 kilo mixer or buy brand new cement mixer (bago ha). paki translate na lang kay mr hog hehehehehehehehe nauubusan ako ng english :-)
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LIVESTOCKS / SWINE / Re: composition
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on: November 23, 2007, 11:18:45 AM
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just divided it by .80 to .300 grms per piglet
here's my feed ration per pig daily
prestarter - .500 to 800 grms starter - 1 to 1.2 kilos grower - 1.5 to 2 kilos fattener 2 to 3 kilos gestating - 2 to 3 kilos lactating 4 to 6 kilos
diff breed have diff feed ration. mine large white and landrace only
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LIVESTOCKS / SWINE / Re: market place
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on: November 23, 2007, 11:01:06 AM
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Slyfox I meet a family friend in the public market bizniz and he does real well.He is a pilot and he said to me that he makes more money selling hogs at the pulic market.then flying planes  it's true.imagine this if i buy 95 to 98 pesos carcass with head (slaughter only) then sell it (choice cuts) at 140 to 160 pesos.
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LIVESTOCKS / SWINE / Re: composition
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on: November 23, 2007, 10:45:01 AM
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here is an example of creep/booster feed ration. this method is for early weaning 14 days old wean
cooked corn/corn - 195 kls Protilac - 78 kls us soya 48% - 74 kls edible lactose - 75 Kls fishmeal local - 30 kls coco oil - 20 kls nutripro - 13 kls limestone - 3.5 kls biofos - 3 kls ap 920 - 10 kls toxin binder - 1 kls tylan 100 - .25 grms pig vitamins - .13 grms pig minerals - .25 grms ferrous sulfate - .25 grms zinc oxide - .13 grms copper sulfate - .13grms dl-methionine - .10 grms
TOTAL = 500.24 kilos
this formula works for me but i'm not sure if it will work on your farm. there's a alot of factor on making feed formulation (ex. breed , housing and etc......)
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LIVESTOCKS / SWINE / Re: Where Do We Go From Here
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on: November 23, 2007, 06:14:25 AM
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philippine is not yet oversupply of pig. every year we are importing pork meat. the problem here is that they (govt & trader) over import. do you know how many heads of hog in 181 million metric tons? sometimes umaabot pa yan 500 million metric tons. govt & traders are really killing us. every year we keep complaining but nobody care that why our price will go down when there's an import of carabeef, kangkaroo, pork , chicken, beef and etc........ only in the philippines
WE ALSO IMPORT HOSPITAL GARBAGE FROM JAPAN :-(
do you want know what's carabeef, kangkaroo, pork , chicken, beef import price? it 50% cheaper than home grown.
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LIVESTOCKS / SWINE / Re: composition
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on: November 23, 2007, 05:49:54 AM
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Doc,no am not using a formulation yet,just coming up with ideas,unable to find some feedstuffs needed,so am trying to find replacements,grain,if one cannot find grain,what about rice instead,rice is a grain,fish meal is only ground up fish,corn bran never heard of it before.Main problem is diarrhea,was thinking one could give the medication for a few days to make sure they do not get sick and then see what happens.Looks like Slyfox is miles ahead of us here,he makes his own feeds,it was always understanding that one cooks the food first.Nobody knows for sure if it will work out,just brainstorming ideas,I do not think its rocket science here.Hogs eat anything. Mikey
corn bran - tahop mais/darak. at what age your pig scour/diarrhea ?
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LIVESTOCKS / SWINE / Re: composition
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on: November 22, 2007, 05:35:19 PM
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Hi What is the composition of hog feeds?Does anybody now?Lets say b-meg I now there are many named brands I just now b-meg is the best and most expensive.So how would you go about making it?I believe if I could figure this out I would have the golden key ;DIf I could find a way around the feed costs I would invest more into the phills I have much hope in this market.My saying is dont rely on others do it yourslf.We all depend on the feed dealers we us hog farmers have to get away from that some how.There is so much vacant land around Davao some would love to lease there land for a few pesos.I say I would love to learn what types of crops I need to plant for the pig feeds and do it that way.again any info would be great thankx
B meg uses 40% cassava meal on there commercial feeds. horizontal mixer 5 to 8 minutes 7 mix vertical mixer 20 to 30 minutes mix each ration has diff formula. (ex. booster , prestarter and etc....) 40 to 50% yellow/white corn 10 to 25% soya - low pro/hi protien 5 to 10% fishmeal local 55 to 60 20 to 30% corn tic tic 15 to 20% corn bran 15 to 20% rice bran D1 - big no no on booster and prestater diet 5 to 10% coprameal 5 to 10% coco oil fine 40 to 50% soft/hard wheat 15 to 20% wheat bran all are in raw we didn't cook it
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LIVESTOCKS / SWINE / Re: price per kg
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on: November 21, 2007, 10:35:20 AM
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Another problem,no standard price system,different prices for different areas,never seen nothing like it. mikey
inter island po ang pilipinas.kaya po nag iiba iba ang price dahil meron po shipping cost. only in the philippines. taga saan po kayo bro? member ka ba ng isang hog association/cooperative sa area ninyo?
I am in Bataan. Privado lang na farmer, no affiliation with any cooperative or association.l kung wala ka ma join dyan. dont worry im here to post naman weekly. what's your farm gate price for this week? :-)
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