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211  LIVESTOCKS / SWINE / Re: market place on: November 23, 2007, 11:42:36 AM
No spots avalible.I would have to go there and bargain with them to sell and that could be real expensive.Me being a white guy hehe.


i understand Sad
212  LIVESTOCKS / SWINE / Re: price per kg on: November 23, 2007, 11:33:45 AM
@mr hog

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213  LIVESTOCKS / SWINE / Re: price per kg on: November 23, 2007, 11:25:01 AM
price right now is going up baka next week 90 na dyan sa inyo bro Smiley

I hope so bro.  I've been reading your post on the other thread about mixing feeds.  I may have to engage in formulating my own as well.  A 2nd hand 5 bagger mixer is being offered at a bargain price of 25k.  I intend to buy it and do some trials.


madali lang po mag gawa ng 25 kilo mixer or buy brand new cement mixer (bago ha). paki translate na lang kay mr hog hehehehehehehehe nauubusan ako ng english :-)
214  LIVESTOCKS / SWINE / Re: market place on: November 23, 2007, 11:21:37 AM
how tuff?
215  LIVESTOCKS / SWINE / Re: composition on: November 23, 2007, 11:18:45 AM
just divided it by .80 to .300 grms per piglet



here's my feed ration per pig daily

prestarter - .500 to 800 grms
starter - 1 to 1.2 kilos
grower - 1.5 to 2 kilos
fattener 2 to 3 kilos
gestating - 2 to 3 kilos
lactating 4 to 6 kilos


diff breed have diff feed ration. mine large white and landrace only
216  LIVESTOCKS / SWINE / Re: Where Do We Go From Here on: November 23, 2007, 11:16:58 AM
60 to 70% of philippine people are at poverty level
217  LIVESTOCKS / SWINE / Re: Where Do We Go From Here on: November 23, 2007, 11:07:08 AM
Slyfox I just dont get it how can it be 50 cheaper?Thats coruption at the finest with your gov,only the people can fix that problem.

here an example if the pork meat from korea is rejected by US due to e coli contaminated. korean owner will just sell it to philippines at a cheaper price instead of burning it. everything rejected from other country they sell it to philippines Sad


last year i saw Mott's Apple Juice label it FOR PHILIPPINE ONLY . why?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh?   even imported can goods
218  LIVESTOCKS / SWINE / Re: market place on: November 23, 2007, 11:01:06 AM
Slyfox I meet a family friend in the public market bizniz and he does real well.He is a pilot and he said to me that he makes more money selling hogs at the pulic market.then flying planes Grin


it's true.imagine this if i buy 95 to 98 pesos carcass with head (slaughter only) then sell it (choice cuts) at 140 to 160 pesos.   
219  LIVESTOCKS / SWINE / Re: composition on: November 23, 2007, 10:45:01 AM
here is an example of creep/booster feed ration.  this method is for early weaning 14 days old wean


cooked corn/corn - 195 kls
Protilac -         78 kls
us soya 48% -  74 kls
edible lactose - 75 Kls
fishmeal local  - 30 kls
coco oil     -     20 kls
nutripro     -     13 kls
limestone  -      3.5 kls
biofos       -      3  kls
ap 920      -     10 kls
toxin binder -   1 kls
tylan 100   -     .25 grms
pig vitamins -   .13 grms
pig minerals -   .25 grms
ferrous sulfate - .25 grms
zinc oxide -    .13 grms
copper sulfate - .13grms
dl-methionine -  .10 grms

TOTAL = 500.24 kilos 

this formula works for me but i'm not sure if it will work on your farm. there's a alot of factor on making feed formulation (ex. breed , housing and etc......)
220  LIVESTOCKS / SWINE / Re: market place on: November 23, 2007, 06:21:15 AM
a lot of my frens right now has meat shop bizniz and they doing well.
221  LIVESTOCKS / SWINE / Re: Where Do We Go From Here on: November 23, 2007, 06:14:25 AM
philippine is not yet oversupply of pig. every year we are importing pork meat. the problem here is that they (govt & trader) over import. do you know how many heads of hog in 181 million metric tons? sometimes umaabot pa yan 500 million metric tons.  govt & traders are really killing  us. every year we keep complaining but nobody care that why our price will go down when there's an import of carabeef, kangkaroo, pork , chicken, beef and etc........    only in the philippines

WE ALSO IMPORT HOSPITAL GARBAGE FROM JAPAN   :-(



do you want know what's carabeef, kangkaroo, pork , chicken, beef import price? it 50% cheaper than home grown. 
222  LIVESTOCKS / SWINE / Re: composition on: November 23, 2007, 05:49:54 AM
Doc,no am not using a formulation yet,just coming up with ideas,unable to find some feedstuffs needed,so am trying to find replacements,grain,if one cannot find grain,what about rice instead,rice is a grain,fish meal is only ground up fish,corn bran never heard of it before.Main problem is diarrhea,was thinking one could give the medication for a few days to make sure they do not get sick and then see what happens.Looks like Slyfox is miles ahead of us here,he makes his own feeds,it was always understanding that one cooks the food first.Nobody knows for sure if it will work out,just  brainstorming ideas,I do not think its rocket science here.Hogs eat anything.
Mikey

corn bran - tahop mais/darak.  at what age your pig scour/diarrhea ?
223  LIVESTOCKS / SWINE / Re: price per kg on: November 22, 2007, 05:57:54 PM
price right now is going up baka next week 90 na dyan sa inyo bro Smiley
224  LIVESTOCKS / SWINE / Re: composition on: November 22, 2007, 05:35:19 PM
Hi What is the composition of hog feeds?Does anybody now?Lets say b-meg I now there are many named brands I just now b-meg is the best and most expensive.So how would you go about making it?I believe if I could figure this out I would have the golden key ;DIf I could find a way around the feed costs I would invest more into the phills I have much hope in this market.My saying is dont rely on others do it yourslf.We all depend on the feed dealers we us hog farmers have to get away from that some how.There is so much vacant land around Davao some would love to lease there land for a few pesos.I say I would love to learn what types of crops I need to plant for the pig feeds and do it that way.again any info would be great thankx



B meg uses 40% cassava meal on there commercial feeds.



horizontal mixer 5 to 8 minutes 7 mix
vertical mixer 20 to 30 minutes mix


each ration has diff formula. (ex. booster , prestarter and etc....)

 
40 to 50% yellow/white corn
10 to 25% soya - low pro/hi protien
5 to 10% fishmeal local 55 to 60
20 to 30% corn tic tic
15 to 20% corn bran
15 to 20% rice bran D1 - big no no on booster and prestater diet
5 to 10% coprameal
5 to 10% coco oil fine
40 to 50% soft/hard wheat
15 to 20% wheat bran

all are in raw we didn't cook it
225  LIVESTOCKS / SWINE / Re: price per kg on: November 21, 2007, 10:35:20 AM
Another problem,no standard price system,different prices for different areas,never seen nothing like it.
mikey


inter island po ang pilipinas.kaya po nag iiba iba ang price dahil meron po shipping cost. only in the philippines.


taga saan po kayo bro?  member ka ba ng isang hog association/cooperative sa area ninyo?

I am in Bataan.  Privado lang na farmer, no affiliation with any cooperative or association.l


kung wala ka ma join dyan. dont worry im here to post naman weekly. what's your farm gate price for this week?  :-)




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