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on: February 05, 2008, 11:02:09 AM
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Hi Slyfox, Kung hindi kayo makapenetrate ang gensan ng pork bound to manila, syempre mas marami supply ng baboy dito sa Gensan. Bakit kaya tumataas din ang presyo ng gensan kahit maraming supply?
na normalize na po last week pa hindi mo ba nakita sa ABS-CBN ang coverage ng gensan group talking with director yap.WE should thank Solid shipping lines for not shipping gensan hog to manila for 2 weeks. Ayan tumaas kaagad ang presyo natin. without gensan hog ewan ko na lang what well happen to our country. dito lang ninyo malalaman kung gaano kalaki ang Gensan Hog industry. Taga polomolok ka man din bro diba hindi mo ba na pansin halos lahat ng feedmiller and contract grower nandito na sa gensan. Bakit kaya? hmmmmmmmmmm
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LIVESTOCKS / SWINE / Re: can I make my own pig crumble
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on: January 31, 2008, 07:19:06 PM
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Feeding Food Wastes to Livestock1 By Robert Myer and Holly Johnson2- Many food wastes have a high nutritional value, and recycling them for animal feed can be a viable waste disposal option.
What are Food Wastes?
The term "food waste" used in this fact sheet is applied to wasted food from the food service industry (i.e. restaurants) and grocery stores. These wastes include plate waste (scrapings), food leftovers, kitchen wastes, spoiled food, expired food, mislabeled food, etc. Other terms to describe these wastes include food residuals, plate waste and kitchen scraps. Two older terms, "garbage" and "swill," are still used, but the livestock and waste management industries prefer not to use these older terms. Feeding Food Wastes to Livestock
Many kinds of food waste can be fed directly to livestock with minimal processing. Food waste that does not contain meat or meat by-products and has not been in contact with meat or meat by-products is exempt from federal and Florida regulations and can be fed to cattle and swine with no processing.
Food wastes that include meat or meat by-products or that have been in contact with meat or meat by-products can be fed to swine. Individuals who plan to feed swine this type of food waste must be licensed as food waste feeders (garbage feeders) by the state of Florida3. The state has adopted regulations set forth in the Federal 1980 Swine Health Protection Act.4 Under these regulations, food wastes with meat or meat by-products or that have been in contact with meat or meat by-products must be cooked at 212°F (100°C) (boiled) for at least 30 minutes before being used as swine feed. There over 100 licensed swine food waste feeders in Florida. Licenses must be renewed annually. The state of Florida has inspectors who will periodically visit swine food waste feeders to ensure that cooking regulations are being followed.
Cattle can be fed food wastes containing meat or meat by-products or that have been in contact with meat or meat by-products as long as these wastes were from food intended for human consumption. In January of 2004, however, the Federal government proposed four rule changes to restrict feeding of food waste containing meat to cattle. This proposal was the result of the first confirmed case of Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE; "mad cow disease") in cattle in the United States. One of these rules states that plate waste cannot be fed to ruminant animals. The reason for this proposed ban is that it is hard to distinguish protein of ruminant origin that may be in plate waste/food waste from protein of ruminant origin in banned rendered products. (Since 1997 it has been illegal in the USA to feed various rendered feed products such as meat and bone meal of ruminant origin to cattle and sheep and other ruminant animals. This ban was put in place in response to the BSE outbreak in Europe). As of 2007, however, the proposed rule changes have not been implemented. Therefore, it is still legal to feed food wastes that contain meat or that have been in contact with meat to cattle. Be aware that this can change in the future.
Footnotes
1. This document is Fact sheet AS116, one of a series of the Animal Science Department, Florida Cooperative Extension Services, Institute of Food and Agricultural Sciences, University of Florida. Please visit the EDIS web site at http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu . This document was revised on July 2004, and again on April 2007. 2. R.O. Myer, Professor of Animal Science, North Florida Research and Education Center, Marianna, Florida; and Holly Johnson, former Graduate Assistant, Center for Biomass Programs, Cooperative Extension Service, Institute of Food and Agricultural Sciences, University of Florida, Gainesville, 32611. 3. Florida Division of Animal Industry Rules, Chapter 5C-11 (5C-11.015; Feeding Garbage; Application for Permit Fees; form DACS-09015). 4. Florida Division of animal Industry Rules, Chapter 5C-11 (5C-11.017, Feeding Garbage; Procedures, Equipment, Records, Quarantine, and Pre-treating Requirements).
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on: January 30, 2008, 12:40:40 PM
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dont experiment gestating , lactating ,boaster and prestater feed because this is the crucial time of pig.
there's a lot commercial feed in visayas and mindanao.
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on: January 30, 2008, 12:18:41 PM
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Hey slyfox what you mean good luck hehehhe? I know you have the forumla why dont you share some of your trade secrets with us?
i already shared may booster/prestater feed formulation. i can't find the thread kung gusto ninyo murang pagkain punta lang kayo sa fastfood chain doon maraming left over food ayan pweding pwede sa baboy.
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LIVESTOCKS / SWINE / Re: can I make my own pig crumble
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on: January 30, 2008, 12:04:00 PM
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Update experiment (07/10) results on homemade feeds: corn bran root crops ,tara roots and leaves,sweet potato and leaves kangkong vine papayas,bananas,coconuts root crops,kangkong.papayas,bananas are cooked to a mash,when cooled down add the corn bran,shredded coconut and salt and molasses. The formulation is now fed to only breeding sows,all healthy no signs of scours,maybe important to add livestock lime when sows pregnant. Note: This formulation has not worked for weaned hogs(all died in the experiment so far) scours was the main problem,it is possible the feed change was too fast,will try it again later. So far this shows some promise in making ones own feeds,more time consuming to make, but if one can grow their own feeds on their land it is possible to lower production costs: Good Farming To All: mikey Independant Producer Region 7
cheap feed and lots of mortality hmmmmmmmmmmm disaster in the making. Good Luck pare hindi naman sa costing ang problema. kung magtaasan ang bilihin ng raw mats then we should also increase our selling para lang kumita tayo.never sacrifice your pig on experimental feed kawawa naman yong baboy. kung papabayaan mo lang ang buyer mag dicta sa presyo hindi ka na dapat mag negosyo ng baboyan
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LIVESTOCKS / Large ruminants (Carabao, cattle etc) / Re: Backyard Cattle Raising
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on: January 27, 2008, 02:16:19 PM
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Hellow Sir, Greetings!!!! Can i have your favorable advice for my small venture as for my backyard raising and if possible the source of this good breed likewise, the nearest source. Actually i'am from Umingan Pangasinan i have a plan to put up this venture which i think can help my family as far as financial is concerned. I'm planning to buy 3 good breed a fast growing breed and if possible the system that i will under take to make it happen in just a short span of time 6 months-7 months. Thank you and more power and God bless. I remain.
Cattlehttp://pinoyagribusiness.com/forum/cattle_carabao_goat_sheep-b4.0/
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LIVESTOCKS / SWINE / Re: price per kg
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on: January 26, 2008, 06:06:42 AM
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sir yan na po ba ang farm gate ngayon sa pag market ng mga fattener?
yes farm gate price
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LIVESTOCKS / SWINE / Re: ATOVI
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on: January 22, 2008, 07:32:17 PM
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An inexpensive solution to poultry livestock health woes By Fermin M. Diaz The Philippine STAR 06/25/2006
An amazing feed powder mix that can improve the immune system and enhance the performance of animals has been developed by a Filipino engineer, offering an inexpensive solution to various health problems encountered by the country’s poultry and livestock industry.
It is a product of nanotechnoogy, as applied by Walther Alvarez, a 49-year old management and industrial engineering graduate of Mapua Institute of Technology.
(Nanotechnology, the science of the teeny-tiny, is derived from nano, Greek for dwarf. It deals with the study of molecular and atomic particles, a world that is measured in nanometers (billionths of a meter). By comparison, a human hair is 80,000nm wide, DNA is about 2nm wide, whereas individual atoms are less than a nanometer.
Nanotechnology involves a process called molecular manufacturing – altering the molecular structure of any physical matter to come out with altered behavior. A nanotech product refers to any substance that is engineered at the scale of a nanometer which is about three to five atoms across. By messing with atoms, an engineer can alter a substance so it does new functions.
The feed additive, developed by accident in 1999, has since then been tested – and proven, by hog raisers in Cavite and Batangas to improve the general well-being of their herd regardless of age. It promotes growth, restores vitality and keeps hogs away from diseases, thus helping swine raisers improve their bottom line.
Over the last six years, the formulation had been found effective in preventing scouring and pneumonia among pigs. It has worked well even in seemingly hopeless cases, such as in freak, lame and weak piglets which were able to recover within 18 days of continuously taking the additive.
Field test results made available to PAJ News and Features also show that dry sows have become pregnant a month after intake of the ‘wonder powder’ while boars with poor semen quality were able to improve their sperm counts and motility, restoring their reproductive capacity.
Even poultry farm managers and owners south of Manila are impressed by the powder’s exquisite qualities. Francis Tecson of Palanca Ilaya, San Jose, Batangas, has reported that his 22-day old broilers had reached weights ranging from 800 to 950 grams, or up to 30 percent heavier than same aged chickens fed with diet less the additive.
Angelito Roque, another broiler raiser from San Jose, Batangas, who also used the pre-mix, said that when he harvested his 600-bird flock after 40 days, the average weight of his 586 surviving chickens reached 1.8 kg., with the heaviest weighing 2.1 kg.
"Magana silang kumain, masigla, walang sakit, at mabilis lumaki," he described his birds fed with the additive.
Pol Toledo, a layer farm owner from Indang, Cavite, has another positive experience with the product. Even if his 5,150 Babcock pullets had reached the age of 26 weeks, they had been laying up to 4,740 eggs in a single day, a high 93.4 percent egg production rate for layers that age. Product development by accident The product, registered with the Bureau of Animal Industry as a performance and immune enhancer and sold under brand name ATOVI, was developed by accident.
It was conceived out of a "fun experiment" done by Alvarez and his siblings on farm animals like broilers, layers, pig, goat, cattle and carabao which the family leisurely raised in its 4.5-hectare vacation farm in Balete, Batangas, seven years ago.
Out of the blue, a physician brother and a biochemist sister thought of formulating vitamin and mineral supplement for their animals. Then they tasked Walther, who has background in nuclear engineering, to monitor the animals’ performance. But before he fed the product, he curiously tinkered with it, subjecting it to nanotechnology and combining the vitamins and minerals into one blend. This unconventional move is an unacceptable practice in formulating nutrients because mixing vitamins and minerals together degrades vitamins’ potency.
The feed supplement was eventually fed to the animals, anyway. But not one of the Alvarez siblings followed up its impact on growth performance, forgetting the product altogether. All they can recall was when they butcher the pigs and broilers, they noticed both meats to be tender and juicy, had few fat, and tasted like the native hog and fowl. They also noticed that their layers yielded bigger eggs with yellow orange yolk and with very few soft shells. Market potential The health benefit and commercial potential of the feed supplement soon dawned in the mind of Alvarez when a scouring plague spread all over Balete sometime in 2001. The disease wiped out backyard hogs in the neighborhood but surprisingly spared all poultry and livestock inside their family farm.
"It was an unusual conclusion. All of a sudden I realized our supplemental mix must have unique qualities that improve health, fight stress, and improve stamina," Alvarez said.
After reluctantly hiring a salesman who went around town selling the additive, more buyers and users reported amazing results. One taker confessed he had succeeded in saving 15 of his 30 piglets on the brink of death caused by scouring.
Another neighbor, who happened to be a Bureau of Animal Industry employee, attested to the product’s efficacy on a number of animal diseases and even went on convincing Alvarez to have the feed additive registered with BAI.
Independent studies on the product’s effect on broilers done by the Animal and Dairy Science Cluster of the University of the Philippines at Los Baños also showed that it can reduce feed consumption and improve feed efficacy, allowing income over feed and chick cost to rise dramatically. More findings In subsequent field trials and actual demonstrations, ATOVI has been proven as an effective immune and growth enhancer, improving the physiological condition of any livestock and providing immediate and optimal response, absorption, conversion, stability and efficacy of the nutritive value of feed inputs and medication program.
Given the astonishing results and despite limited distribution in the last few years, Alvarez said he was now ready to promote his product for wider use by the poultry and livestock sector. This, he said, is in the hope of sharing the product’s enormous benefits with Filipino animal raisers.
"Our farmers ought to be given opportunities to be more productive and competitive so it’s about time our product reaches them for their own advantage," he said. "Rather than seen as competitor to conventional feeds and veterinary health products, ATOVI actually serves as catalyst and their partner to effective and treatment of disease and stimulation of appetite," he explained.
He pointed out that the additive improves feed efficiency or conversion by maintaining health gut, enhancing nutrient digestability and utilization, and promoting faster recovery animals, and reduce ammonia from waste products.
Currently, the product is being used by satisfied hog and layer farms and feed mills like Holiday Hills Stock and Breeder Farm, Leslie Farms, Philac Farm, G Nilo Farm, Desmeg Farm and Feed Mills, Magicorp Feed Mills, to name a few.
For details, contact Vim-Vertex and Co. Inc., the additive formulator, manufacturer and distributor, at tel. nos. (02) 842-3003 and 842-5312 or 0917-964-5409 and 0919-7066499. masubukan nga ito. 
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LIVESTOCKS / SWINE / Re: price per kg
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on: January 15, 2008, 10:44:36 AM
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price in luzon is going going up because of mindanao cannot ship live hog to luzon. mag 3 weeks na po wala kaming benta dito  . according to solid shipping ang problema daw is DENR and coast guard. to does luzon hog raiser these is your change to increase hog price to 100 pesos.
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LIVESTOCKS / SWINE / Re: SCALE
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on: December 29, 2007, 04:44:25 PM
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there's a lot scale selling in hardware all you have too do just convert it.
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on: December 29, 2007, 04:42:54 PM
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Mr Hog,well its not rocking yet just some small waves lol.There is a public market with weight scales and someone records all the livestock sales down the road from us,like miles down the road,all livestock sold by the kg.we would need a truck to haul the hogs there on Saturdays.Not many trucks in our town,the mayor owns most of them,not interested in renting us a truck and driver,their trucks used for hauling copra and bananas etc.they do not want livestock in their trucks,fair enough.I am not sure how big of a truck one needs for 100 or 50 hogs,would haul goats too.A 1 ton truck would not hold alot of hogs??Like Doc. said ,if they are packed in too tight they will jump out,dead hog all over the highway.I am not sure may be a 1-3 ton truck would be good enough??Slyfox talked about a van that hold 90 hogs,wonder how big this truck is?? A 5 ton or what? mikey Region#7
130 to 150 hds ten wheeler truck modified six wheel truck extended body double deck , 87 to 100 hds isuzu forward or mitsubishi fighter with extended body double deck and 50 to 60 hds isuzu elf or mitsubishi canter extended body double deck also. problem of owning a truck is the maintainance. it is much better to rent a truck/jeep Doc, thanks for the info,I guess something like a 1 ton will do just fine maybe with a double deck. Later; mikey
1 ton = 10 to 12 hds only a modified hauling jeep will be fine
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