Worm problems

[nemo]

Yun generic dewormer would cost 300-600 pesos, ivermectin .

[rain]

Yun generic dewormer would cost 300-600 pesos, ivermectin .

thank you doc...

[doods]

The most common dewormer in the market is ivermectin, levamisole, fenbedazole.

Personally, i go for ivermectin. Brand name ivomec.

hi doc,
       good day po sa inyo....tanung ko lang doc,may idea po ba kayo kng magkano ang mga dewormer brand na ito?and how much it will cost if im going to deworm my goats for 4 times a year.....thank you doc

Here in our town it costs 1,600 pesos.

hi sir...tanung ko lang po dinedeworm nyo po ba ang lahat ng kambing nyo?magkano po ang inaabot na expenses sa isang goat(deworming,vitamins,etc.)hanggang maibenta na?profitable pa rin po ba sya?

[NaturalBornKiller]

Yun generic dewormer would cost 300-600 pesos, ivermectin .

hello sir.

what is the recommended dose for ivermectin? I gave my buck a 1 ml intramuscular shot s month aog... about 2 weeks ago I gave the does and the buck 2 tabs each of ivermectin tablets...

advisable din ba ang ivermectin sa mga kids?

thanks.

[nemo]

1 ml is to 33 kg ang recommended dose.
it is relatively safe, so it is okay to use in kids.

[mikey]

Tapeworms - the Effect on Kid Goats
Why I use Valbazen on Kids Especially 
The kids are born. Healthy, in good body condition and thriving.. a couple months later they seem to be stunted. Growth is poor, size is small, yet they have not shown signs of scouring from coccidiosis nor are they anemic. Appetite is good, activity seems normal, hair coat is a bit rough. The main thing you notice is a big belly and spindly legs - you deworm with Ivomec or Ivomec Plus and still nothing seems to change.

Enter the use of Valbazen (I use it at the rate of 1cc/10lbs goat weight) and this is an oral anthelmintic (dewormer) only.  Do NOT use on pregnant does or suspected pregnant does. Is very effective against most stomach worms, liver fluke and tapeworms as well as lungworm.

Tapeworm is a controversial subject when discussing adverse effects of this parasite to the health of the animal. Most articles will say they are generally non invasive but I will argue that , in particular with the growth of kid goats. The use of Valbazen is important  to rid the goat of these worms!

[doncorleone]

1 ml is to 33 kg ang recommended dose.
it is relatively safe, so it is okay to use in kids.

Hello Doc

Saan bang part dapat turukan ang isang kambing ng ivermectin?

[nemo]

Ivermectin is being delivered by subcutaneous injection or just under the skin, and not in the muscle.

You could inject it in the thigh area/pigi using a 1/2 inch needle so the probability that it will be injected only  under the skin is high.

Another way is by injecting in the loose skin at the back of the animal. You will pick up the loose skin and inject inside it. But this is seldom done.

But to be honest most of the people i know inject it IM...but the proper way is through subcutaneous.

[doncorleone]

Ivermectin is being delivered by subcutaneous injection or just under the skin, and not in the muscle.

You could inject it in the thigh area/pigi using a 1/2 inch needle so the probability that it will be injected only  under the skin is high.

Another way is by injecting in the loose skin at the back of the animal. You will pick up the loose skin and inject inside it. But this is seldom done.

But to be honest most of the people i know inject it IM...but the proper way is through subcutaneous.

dOC, what will happen if you accidentally injected the ivermectin in the muscle? pwede po ba ang needle ng tuberclin o ng 5ml syringe?

[nemo]

As long as hindi mababaliko yun tubercullin then it is fine.

Nothing detrimental naman will happen. Yun effectivity lang mas shorter compare if it is injected in the subcutaneous.

[mikey]

Liver Flukes

The liver fluke, also known as liver rot or Fasciola hepatica, is a parasite of the liver that can affect sheep, goats and cattle. It is associated with wetter, warmer climates or muddy pastures. It commonly shows up in young ruminants exposed to pastures containing wet areas, and it's not unusual for kids affected with it to die so fast they hardly have time to be sick. Once liver fluke gets a foothold, especially in a young animal, it quickly does severe damage to the liver, especially true if there are any colostridial organisms present in the body, since they multiply and secrete their toxins fast in the already damaged and poorly oxygenated liver tissue. (Hetherington)

The most difficult problem with liver fluke treatment/control is that the veterinary community in general might not be aware that it's there. As a result, they're unable to recommend proper treatment for it. This is because the egg of the liver fluke looks so similar to that of the barberpole (stomach) worm that when it shows up on the slide in the vet's office, it's routinely misidentified to be that of the stomach worm. The vet, seeing what looks much like a stomach worm will routinely recommend Ivomec to the owner as the wormer of choice to eradicate it. Rightly so, because the moment it appeared on the scene back in the early 1980s, Ivomec was recognized as the most effective general wormer to show up, ever. It remains still the best and most effective general dewormer on the market today. However, when the liver fluke failed to respond to Ivomec treatment in documented situations, the loss of the animal in question was assumed to be "resistance" to the effectiveness of Ivomec. This notion has now become so pervasive that the veterinary community in general believes that the worms affecting livestock have developed a resistance to Ivomec; the result being a recommendation to their clients that they increase the doses or turn to other wormers. Another answer to the problem has not been to treat, but to cull. Additional dosage or other wormers have not begun to slow the deaths being caused by liver fluke. Since neither of those suggestions works successfully, the most recent approach has been to set up Famacha classes to instruct owners and veterinarians alike in how to check the eyelids of the downed animals to see if they're anemic. If the animals have pale eyelids, indicating they're anemic, owners are sometimes advised to destroy the victim, fearing if it lives, the "resistance to wormers" will spread further. (McCoy)

The problem could be solved with a good set of reference photos specifically oriented to goat internal parasites. The barberpole worm and the liver fluke are almost identical in appearance. But on close examination the liver fluke is shaped like a football with pointy ends, whereas the barberpole worm is shaped like a football with more rounded ends. (McCoy)

Sadly neither Ivomec nor Pancur nor any of the other general wormers on the market today are effective against liver fluke. The fact is that this parasite can only be eradicated efficiently by using a product call Ivomec Plus. It's not the Ivomec itself, but the plus part of the combined wormer, clorsulon, that effectively wipes out liver fluke. And since it only kills the adult of the species, clorsulon has to be used at regular doses, three times in a row, 10 days apart, to kill it off completely. For those who may have a liver fluke infestation, it is recommended that an initial whole-herd worming (at normal doses) be done on day one. When the adults and many of the left alive eggs have become larvae, approximately 10 days later, a second whole-herd worming should be done. Ten days after that second worming, a third whole-herd worming with Ivomec Plus should be done to wipe out the eggs that became larvae by the second worming and are now adults. Fecal tests at this point should show the egg population to be at an extremely low level.

Typical symptoms of a parasite or worm problem in the goat herd range from general unthriftiness, to rough coat, to a pot-bellied appearance, to anemia and weakness. The early symptoms of liver fluke problems can be deceiving because the animal may appear to be well fed and gaining in flesh at the beginning. This can change rapidly to the unobservant owner as the liver fluke sucks the life from its host, creating a dull coat, possible yellowish pus and tint to the eyes, nose and tongue, and even offensive breath. With a severe problem, diarrhea or constipation may appear, the hair may fall out, the muscles shrink and the stomach appears to sag. The head becomes droopy and loss of appetite and increased thirst become pronounced. (Leach)

A liver fluke invasion happens when goats are allowed to graze or browse wet, or poorly drained areas. In the case of my little Nubian, we have a rotational grazing system which includes a meandering creek, which in that particular year had overflowed its banks several times during a very wet and rainy spring. Perhaps it was during that late spring that my doe picked up the liver fluke, or its helpful host, the mud snail.

The mud snail (Limnaea truncatula) acts as a host for completion of the liver fluke's life cycle, so goats can be infested during times in which they graze a suitable habitat, such as low-lying areas prone to mud or creek overflow. (Hetherington)

The best way to avoid the liver fluke is to keep grazing or browsing goats away from muddy low-lying areas, though they love the trees and forage along the creeks. It is always important to seek veterinarian advice for treatment if a liver fluke problem is suspected. And it is imperative that every goat owner know what is normal behavior and what isn't for every goat in the herd. In my case, no other goats were affected by the liver fluke problem, and I'm not sure why that was. But the fact that my yearling Nubian acted differently than I expected her to is what likely saved her life in the long run.

[mikey]

Parasite Control in Dairy Goats
Know the Enemy!

By Dr. Deb Mangelsdorf, D.V.M. 


Controlling parasites in goats requires a general knowledge of the types of parasites they are exposed to, how they are exposed, and how you the producer can best rid your animals of them. The goal is not necessarily to be parasite free, as they will stimulate some immune response to their presence, but rather to manage goats in a way that will keep them from being compromised by an excessive load. Parasites get their nutrition from their host, feeding on fluids and serum and blood from the goat and the groceries meant for the goat. They are internal and external, and they can be found in most animals.

How do you develop a strategy for controlling parasites in goats? You must know the enemy! Three general classes of parasites must be considered: internal intestinal worms, external parasites of the skin, and the protozoa parasites of the intestinal tract. Some have direct life cycles, meaning that eggs passed in the goat feces can infect another goat upon consumption. Others use an intermediate host for passage and development. They thrive under certain conditions and lurk in locations ready to infest your goats. Some are very resistant to environmental conditions. Some are very resistant to drugs. I recommend a program designed to avoid infestation and diminish their population.

The young kid is exposed to intestinal parasites as soon as it enters the environment that other goats have been living in. Manure from other goats will have eggs of nematodes or nematode larvae ready to enter the baby kid as it noses and nurses on its mother or nibbles and picks at the ground. One of the first parasites to infest the young baby will likely be coccidia. Most goats have some. Most adults have an immune system that recognizes coccidia and keeps it in check. It is important to understand that the dam, however, will shed more parasite eggs or ova near the time that she kids, in part due to hormonal changes that trigger an awakening from hypobiosis (like hibernation for parasites), and in part to stress. Thus, Mom is the first source for parasites for most kids.

Deworming the dam about four weeks before kidding helps to decrease the parasite load she will contribute to the environment.

Kids reared by hand will probably need to be fed a coccidiastatic drug to keep them from developing an overabundance of these intestinal protozoa. Deccox may be added to milk or feed to help. Albon or Corrid are other products.

As the kids approach their first month, deworming against nematodes should be considered. With most kids being born in the milder and wetter months, most kids will need to be dewormed monthly for the first three months.

As you build your herd strategy for control of parasites, consider how to hit 'em when it hurts the most! Using help from the weather, deworm when the weather hot and dry or when it is very cold. The residual load in the environment will be at its lowest at those times, and minimizes re-infestation. Parasites love the mild moist and balmy spring and early fall. Coccidia especially loves the spring with all the new kids in the population, and can survive for months in and around moist areas. Even just the little bit of moisture that seems to stay around a bucket or water tank will harbor them.

When moving to a clean pasture or pen, maximize control by deworming before the animals are moved. Fecal egg output will decreased. Clean old bedding out of pens and sheds before housing kids in them. Place water containers through a fence panel or elevated enough that feces cannot fall into them. Goats prefer to eat from elevated positions, not on the ground, so placement of feeders and hay mangers three feet above ground level also minimizes contamination.

During the winter months, and coming into spring we seem to see more ectoparasites. Lice are especially problematic in closely confined goats. There are biting and sucking lice, and they will cause as much stress and debilitation to an infested animal as a good load of worms. Some systematic dewormers of the Ivermectin and related drugs will take care of them while you are treating for the internal parasites. Pour on products will often be effective on the external parasites, but the absorption rate is not always appropriate for internal worms.

Involve your veterinarian in your program. Periodic fecal exams done by a veterinarian will help you to evaluate the effectiveness of your program. Because many of the drugs used for management of parasites are off-label for goats, consult with your veterinarian to establish a vet/client/patient relationship. Some recommended drug doses to consider may be found at these websites www.luresext.edu/goats/library/field/dawson02b.pdf, or www.rmncsba.org/SMALLRUMINANT.pdf.
 

[Scott Enterprises]

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[Scott Enterprises]

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