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nemo
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Re: Worm problems
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Reply #15 on:
December 13, 2007, 01:22:11 PM »
Usually vitamins , dewormers, usually available ito sa mga agristore.
Soy sauce as prevention? Well the only way to prevent worm is thru management.
Although articles say it can use as dewormer pero marami na pong cheap dewormer na mabibili sa market so go with commercial dewormer nalang kahit paano kasi controled nila ang dosage nito.
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mikey
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December 14, 2007, 09:47:55 AM »
Deworming;
aside from pneumonia,parasites rank second in causing heavy mortality,tapeworms are the most debilitating worm problem in all ages of gaots.Protozoa like coccida and amoeba are also common problems espicially in young kids.Check goats regularly for specific worm load and deworm regularly depending on worm load and seasonal occurrences,always helpful to know what kind of internal parasite is affecting your herd before attempting to use a deworming product,it can be a waste of time.
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benedict
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December 18, 2007, 02:56:06 PM »
sirs i hope you dont mind, can you send me some of your programs that you do on your goat? plz.. i will appreciate it.. sir pano po ba magdeworm? itinuturok po ba ito or ipinapainom? god bless..
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mikey
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December 25, 2007, 02:32:26 PM »
Benedict,sorry but I cannot remember when I pm you about the information if I told you that we deworm our does 3-4 days after kidding,and start to deworm our kid(s) at 1 month of age.Look for a broad spectrum dewormer for the adults.Injection or oral is up to your management practices.
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mikey
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December 30, 2007, 10:34:31 AM »
Fenbendazole----------broad spectrum dewormer
Albendazole------------at a doseage of 10 milligrams per body weight
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rain
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April 12, 2008, 06:10:22 PM »
Quote from: mikey on December 30, 2007, 10:34:31 AM
Fenbendazole----------broad spectrum dewormer
Albendazole------------at a doseage of 10 milligrams per body weight
sir,how many times we should deworm the goat after weaning?is there any injectable procedure for this?
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mikey
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April 12, 2008, 11:41:43 PM »
Rain,On our farm,we start to deworm the baby goats at 1 month of age,30 day cycle,then every 3 months in the dry season, 30 day cycle,but during the rainy season we deworm every 60 days for a 30 day cycle,every other month.I have found the Fenbendazole is good for liver flukes,worms of the liver,Albendazole,broad spectrum,either by injection or in the drinking is the dewormer we use.There are different dewormers on the market.Maybe Doc. Nemo knows of some other brand names.Goats that are not dewormed on a regular bases are goats that will not perform well for their producer.
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nemo
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April 13, 2008, 02:01:28 PM »
The most common dewormer in the market is ivermectin, levamisole, fenbedazole.
Personally, i go for ivermectin. Brand name ivomec.
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April 13, 2008, 03:54:21 PM »
Quote from: mikey on April 12, 2008, 11:41:43 PM
Rain,On our farm,we start to deworm the baby goats at 1 month of age,30 day cycle,then every 3 months in the dry season, 30 day cycle,but during the rainy season we deworm every 60 days for a 30 day cycle,every other month.I have found the Fenbendazole is good for liver flukes,worms of the liver,Albendazole,broad spectrum,either by injection or in the drinking is the dewormer we use.There are different dewormers on the market.Maybe Doc. Nemo knows of some other brand names.Goats that are not dewormed on a regular bases are goats that will not perform well for their producer.
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sir thank you....by the way sir how much it will cost for each goat to deworm..until they mature and sell it?
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mikey
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April 14, 2008, 08:39:34 AM »
Rain,our native goats we like to deworm 3 times per year,the upgrades and mixes,3-4 times per year,the imports every 3 months in the dry season,every other month in the wet season.To give a break down on the cost of every goat,would take alot of work going through the records.We look at the monthly cost.Some goats need more deworming,some less.Deworming is part of the goat business.Of coarse the less deworming one has to do,the better for the producer,lowers your production cost and saves time.
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mikey
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April 19, 2008, 09:43:06 AM »
Internal Parasite Chart
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Internal Parasites
Name Symptoms Treatment
Roundworms [4010] "Bottle jaw"¹, constipation OR diarrhea, rough hair coat, anemia², cough, weight loss, indigestion Tramisol® (Levamisole), Panacur® (Fenbendazole), Valbazen® (Albendazole)
Liver flukes (trematodes) [4351] Off feed; abdomen painful, swollen and sags; muscles shrink; anemia; milk drops; brisket skin yellow; diarrhea OR consitpation; "bottle jaw;" head droops; sudden death. Can lead to Black disease³. Valbazen®
Lungworms [4421] Rapid shallow breathing with "husky" cough, head held forward, drooling, protruding tongue, nasal discharge (sometimes), froth from mouth if severe Tramisol®, change pasture
Stomach flukes [4441] Anorexia, thirst, diarrhea can be severe, unthrifty appearance, eggs may be seen in feces, can lead to death Control snails; Contact your vet
Parasites (larvae) in Central Nervous System (CNS) Weakness, incoordination, head to one side, circling, blindness, ear or eyelid droop, paralysis, loss of normal fear, sleepiness Killing them via normal means causes release of toxins which may be fatal.
1 "Bottle jaw" refers to a peculiar swelling under the jaw which frequently accompanies worm infestation. It is usually centrally located, which distinguishes it from most jaw swellings that are infectious in nature wherein the lump will tend toward one side. Also, it feels more watery to the touch.
2 When checking for anemia, the "paleness" that you are looking for is more reliably observed by rolling back the eyelids than looking at the gums. The "normal" color of gums and other oral tissues can vary greatly among individual animals.
3 Black disease: a very serious disease caused by Clostridium novyi resulting in sudden death. Easily vaccinated against by use of "7-way". Rare in goats.
Univ of Georgia Lungworms
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mikey
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April 19, 2008, 09:47:24 AM »
Worming
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12/30/01
Prevention
When to worm
We recommend that all goats be wormed at least twice a year. Three times per year is even better. There are some who feel that since the commercial worm preparations are not "organic", they cause significant harm to the animals and should be avoided if at all possible. We have not found this to be true, unless the animals is already debilitated by disease or deficiency. There are a few who seem to show mild digestive disturbance following worming; this is easily prevented by giving one of the probiotics (Probios Bovine One®) about 12 hours after the worming. A different wormer should be used in rotation so that resistance does not develop and so that organisms which don’t respond to one type do not have a chance to bloom. Some people perform regular fecal testing and worm only if eggs are found in the samples. This is probably ideal, but may be too expensive for most of us.
The schedule of wormings should be arranged so that one of them comes near delivery, which is the time of highest stress for productive does. Some parasites thrive during the summer months; one of the wormings can be timed the prevent that outbreak. It is good to check with your local extension office or vet to find the most up to date information on this.
Each worming should also be repeated 21 days later in order to kill those parasites which have hatched since the last worming, since most wormers, even the best, do not kill eggs. Therefore, if you plan wormings for three times per year you will actually be doing it six times.
What to use
There are as many preferences as there are goat raisers. Many folks use "herbals." These may or may not work; however, we have never used them and do not pretend to have the knowledge to even comment on their use.
Another problem is that it seems that just when we find something that works well for us it gets taken off the market for some reason or the other. Two of the best products have been TBZ® (thiabenzadole) and Levasole® (levamaisole hydrochloride, aka Tramisol®). TBZ is no longer available; Levasole wasn't available for a while, but seems to be back in production now, but is rather hard to find. One current source is Pipestone Veterinary Supply at www.pipevet.com
Valbazen® (albendazole) is a highly effective wormer and will also take care of adult liver flukes. Caution: it should never be used during the first two months of pregnancy. It can cause fetal death or skeletal malformation of the fetus.
Panacur® (fenbendazole) is a wormer frequently used on horses which has recently found use in goats. It also goes by the name Safeguard, I believe. Some report noticing worms after its use in goats; others recommend using a dose which is double that of the label recommendation for horses.
Ivermectin is used by many people on all sorts of farm animals. It is very effective against both internal and external parasites. It comes in injectible, paste and "pour on" form which makes it easy to use. It also comes in a formulation which is effective against liver flukes. However, it is excreted in the milk of lactating animals and one should be very careful of withdrawal times. We do not recommend the oral use of Ivermectin, any pour-on or any other preparation not labeled by the manufacurer for oral (internal) administration. You should discuss this topic with your vet. Since the elimination of some of the "old stand-by's", more and more goat raisers are now using Ivermectin.
It is a very good idea to rotate pastures whenever worm remedies are given, either for prevention or treatment so that the animals are not reinfested by the same organisms that you are treating for.
Treatment
For the treatment of internal parasites one should carefully consult the labels of all worm preparations. Frequently, a higher dose will be required for treatment than for prevention. Almost all will require a second treatment 21 days later. Some severe infestations will require several dosings to do the job. You should always get expert help from your vet if you find that you have given multiple treatments without a reduction in symptoms. As mentioned above, it is not a bad idea to follow treatment with an application of one of the probiotics to help restore rumen microbes.
Cornell Univ
CONSULTANT © Cornell's Diagnostic program
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April 19, 2008, 09:49:37 AM »
"Bottle jaw" "Bottle jaw" is a common symptom of internal parasite infestation. It is distinguishable from other swellings of the jaw in being centrally located, rather soft in texture, and higher than the goat equivalent of the "Adam’s apple." We have found that these swellings usually disappear after a good worming. We suggest that you wait a day or two after first noticing "bottle jaw" because the swelling sometimes mysteriously disappears on its own just as quickly as it appears. Here is a picture of a case of early-stage "Bottle jaw". The swelling can later become very large if not treated.The second picture is a little more advanced
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April 27, 2008, 03:02:12 PM »
Quote from: nemo on April 13, 2008, 02:01:28 PM
The most common dewormer in the market is ivermectin, levamisole, fenbedazole.
Personally, i go for ivermectin. Brand name ivomec.
hi doc,
good day po sa inyo....tanung ko lang doc,may idea po ba kayo kng magkano ang mga dewormer brand na ito?and how much it will cost if im going to deworm my goats for 4 times a year.....thank you doc
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doncorleone
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April 28, 2008, 05:51:30 PM »
Quote from: doods on April 27, 2008, 03:02:12 PM
Quote from: nemo on April 13, 2008, 02:01:28 PM
The most common dewormer in the market is ivermectin, levamisole, fenbedazole.
Personally, i go for ivermectin. Brand name ivomec.
hi doc,
good day po sa inyo....tanung ko lang doc,may idea po ba kayo kng magkano ang mga dewormer brand na ito?and how much it will cost if im going to deworm my goats for 4 times a year.....thank you doc
Here in our town it costs 1,600 pesos.
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