dark brown, semi-formed still birth

[Veni]

hello sa lahat,
first parity nya ay ganito inilabas, dark brown na tipong matagal ng patay sa loob ng tyan, hindi pa gaanong buo at ang iba ay napakaliit pa. dalwa lang ang medyo buo at puti ang kulay, maganda na sana ang hitsura pero still birth din. ano kaya ang naging dahilan neto? kahit ang dugong lumabas ay dark red to dark brownish, tipong lumang dugo na.
salamat.

[laguna_piglets]

Mummified piglets.

[babuylaber]

as in lahat po ba? wala po bang piglets born alive?

[Veni]

oo lahat. maganda pa bang gawin inahin eto?

[up_n_und3r]

Hi po sa lahat,

Share ko lng din. Marami pong nakaencounter ng ganyan dito, still births pero may buhay nmn po. Parang 5 out of 10 nabubuhay, the rest still birth. And they say na ang cause daw is ung feed formulation ng isang low-end na commercial feed is mataas ung lime content/ apog. Sobrang init daw po ung reaction nya sa tyan ng inahin which causes mummified piglets. All backyards owners that encountered mummified piglets used the same feed brand.

Dati raw when they use other feed brand, hindi ganun ung result naman. Hindi nmn po ito dahil sa parvo virus, noh? How is it true po ba na they are looking at the feed formulation as the root cause? Ung iba nmn na backyard owners na di gumagamit ng ganung feeds, di nmn sila affected, including me.

[babuylaber]

@veni. may parvo vaccine po ba inahin nila?

@upnuder. hindi kaya yung delivery boy ng "low end commercial feed" ay may dalang virus? kaya lahat ng dineliveran niya ay nagka mm?

[up_n_und3r]

Pwde xang maging carrier kht magkakaiba ung dates of delivery? So wala rin bng basis na mataas ung limestone content kaya nangamatay sa loob ung mga biik?

[Veni]

@B, wala akong naibigay na parvo vaccine. due date nya dapat ay sept 7. maganda sana ang dami ng gatas nya, even before 10 days of expected parity, kahit hindi pa naka lactating feed, malaki na dede nya. she have good build, i can't say na mataba sya, at 2kg grains fed per day.
 mi kasabay pa syang inahin same due date, malaki na pwerta kaya pinapabantayan ko na rin.
hopefully maganda maging resulta so i can't blame the delivery boy hehehe

[nemo]

@veni malamang nadale ka parvo...

@up_n_under,

marami po kasi dapat tingnan  hindi lang din ang feeds...masama mang sabhihin nasanay kasi tayo na kapag may problema ang una natin iniisip n cause is feeds...

about limestone naman... may i ask kung anong test ang ginawa para malaman nila ang limestone content ay mataas? At kung sakali naman mataas i am not sure kung magcacause ito ng mummified....


siguro ang surveillance dyan is ilang inahin ang affected na kumakain ng brand x, then ilan inahin ang kumakain ng brand x na hindi affected, then ilan inahin ang may same case na brand y naman ang kinakain. then next question is gaano kalayo sa isat isa yun meron sakit?

Kasi kung iisipin usually kasi sa isang baranggay tabi tabi yan halos parehas brand ginagamit or kung hindi man pwede din natin sabihin si delivery boy ang nakapagdala (possible ) galing siya sa isang babuyan na may sakit nung nag deliver sa kabila nabitbit niya.
Or galing isang babuyan dahil tabi tabi sila nung humangin nabitbit sa kalapit na babuyan yun sakit. another possibility na nangyayari is ang likuran ng babuyan is sapa or ilog, then may namatay sa sakit na parvo itinapon si biik sa ilog kaya yun virus kumalat sa mga babuyan na malapit sa ilog/sapa.

[up_n_und3r]

Thanks doc sa reply. actually ung feedback that i heard came from a semi farm owner na lagi nilang tinatakbuhan for emergency. Magaling kasi xang mang service kaya kahit madaling araw, maagapan tlga may sakit.

Iisa ung brand na ginamit ng lahat ng may mummufied piglets and nasa iisang kaming barangay, no body of water nearby. Although ala xang basis to say na ang cause is sa content ng feed, un ung una nyang suspect without even saying na baka due to virus ito. I think he is also aware of the causes of mummified piglets.

Nevertheless, though hindi ito mismo galing sa feed content (excess element), ung cause naman, which we suspect, might came from the process of delivering the feeds, di na rin cguro naisip ng feed company to take extra precaution. If this will be the case, mahirap tlgang matrace ung root cause kung san galing.

So for us owners, take extra precaution na rin pla. Vaccinate and ensure na ung pagbabagsakan ng feeds e hindi mismo kung saan andun ung mga baboy. Ang gngwa namin is that ibabagsak na lng muna nila un sa harap ng bhay, then someone will get it and store it sa stock room the next day. I make sure rin na wala dun or malayo ung tao ko kapag nagdeliver para di xa maging carrier rin pag nagtransfer xa kinabukasan.

[Veni]

salamat doc nemo for your reply. i have no experience yet about parvo. this was my 3rd delivery, as i am just over a year in pig raising by now. i use the deep-bedding system, so i had a weekly spray of indigenous microorganism (IMO), sanitizing the whole place.
i use a widely travelled boar when mating my sows, di kaya sila naman ang dahilan? yung mga gusto mag alok sa akin ng AI ay yun naman ang sales talk, baka daw mi dalang sakit naman ang magbobolog.
this is a group of 6 sows, i had in fact had another delivery last sept 4, 9 healthy piglets and 1 stillbirth... i used the same magbobolog but he have another boar which he used with this successful delivery. i am expecting another parity by sept 11.

i will try to look in previous threads if there is already a discussion about parvo and post my queries there. so this thread stays on topic about mummified and possible causes.