Where Do We Go From Here

[Slyfox]

philippine is not yet oversupply of pig. every year we are importing pork meat. the problem here is that they (govt & trader) over import. do you know how many heads of hog in 181 million metric tons? sometimes umaabot pa yan 500 million metric tons.  govt & traders are really killing  us. every year we keep complaining but nobody care that why our price will go down when there's an import of carabeef, kangkaroo, pork , chicken, beef and etc........    only in the philippines

WE ALSO IMPORT HOSPITAL GARBAGE FROM JAPAN   :-(



do you want know what's carabeef, kangkaroo, pork , chicken, beef import price? it 50% cheaper than home grown. 

[mr hog]

Slyfox I just dont get it how can it be 50 cheaper?Thats coruption at the finest with your gov,only the people can fix that problem.

[Slyfox]

Slyfox I just dont get it how can it be 50 cheaper?Thats coruption at the finest with your gov,only the people can fix that problem.

here an example if the pork meat from korea is rejected by US due to e coli contaminated. korean owner will just sell it to philippines at a cheaper price instead of burning it. everything rejected from other country they sell it to philippines


last year i saw Mott's Apple Juice label it FOR PHILIPPINE ONLY . why??   even imported can goods

[mr hog]

Wow that really sucks phills is just a dumping ground then?People dont die or get sick?if so people dont care?as long as its cheap?

[Slyfox]

60 to 70% of philippine people are at poverty level

[mikey]

The Slyfox,in some sort of federation,must be one of the big boys.Every country dumps into other countries.Canada dumps into the USA.The USA dumps into Canada.We all dump into Mexico.Nothing new.The poor guy earning 50-100 pesos per day can barley afford rice for the month,let alone meat for his family,cheap products help to ease some of the pressures.I see this first hand with our caretakers,I as a outsider (foreigner) married to a Philippine girl,must follow the wage structure in our area.Its the way it is.We do pay all the expensives,food,electric bills and provide housing,2 care packages arrive with clothing,shoes,candies and supplies every year.If one can lower feed expensives,exporting is still an option,proper processing plants will need to be built first,am sure we could compete against other countries,we can hold own in a open marketplace if given a chance.Exporting helps to pick up the slack of supply.
Independant Producer Region 7:
mikey

[Slyfox]

all third world countries is a dumping ground bad quality food

[nemo]

Wow that really sucks phills is just a dumping ground then?People dont die or get sick?if so people dont care?as long as its cheap?

Some die, some get sick. They would rather eat and die later rather than die and never eat again. sad reality.

[mikey]

Doc, that is bad news,not only for the people, but for the livestock industry as a whole as bad foodstuffs can cause an outbreak of diseases especially hogs in country,just look at what happened to England some years back,and in Canada in the 60s,imported meat products are suspect,in both cases.We do our best to keep our caretakers happy,one as an outsider must respect the local ways on how things are done.Who am I to change the way things are done at our place,the business people there want me to mind my own business,and keep on the program or I will only make them upset and when we return it may be a little uncomfortable for us.You what I mean.
Good Day Doc,
mikey;independant producer region 7

[genie_ps]

Wow that really sucks phills is just a dumping ground then?People dont die or get sick?if so people dont care?as long as its cheap?

Some die, some get sick. They would rather eat and die later rather than die and never eat again. sad reality.

I can't elaborate any better than that Doc.   

[mikey]

Farmers producing less than 10 slaughter hogs per year make the smallest profit per unit of output,and are therefore expected to leave the market when better opportunies arise.Smallholders producing 20-40 slaughter hogs per year,however,are as cost-efficent at the farm level as larger-scale industrial farms.These smallholders are under threat of being forced out of the sector because of high market transaction costs.Policies supporting smallholder market participation,including the promotion of institutional arrangements linking the various stakeholders in the pork production chain to the fast growing mainstream markets for pork,are therefore crucial to capitalize on the propoor oppuntunties offered by the growing domestic pork market.Having a stable Govt. would do the country good as a hold.Foreign investors become uneasy when talk of coup or attempted coups take place,without foreign capital investing into the ecomony of the Philippines the country will remain the same at present levels,Money flows at the speed of light in this new world economy.The country can only progress with the help and technology of the outside world.The choice is yours.Makes no difference to me where I invest my capital.
mikey Region 7

[mr hog]

Mikey some very good points indeed if theres a new gov in the next little while it maybe a good thing lets just hope everybody will like the new presidant.Also I hope the new gov will be tuff on imported pork from other countrys.

[mikey]

It seems to me that 2007 was a good year in the hog business,even at our remote location in Region#7,we made money.Hogs are leading the way in livestock production with a 3.9% growth,will be interesting to see what the growth will be for 2008.Corn had a higher value also,not good for livestock producers as this cuts into our profit margin.Natutral disasters,typhoons etc.all must be accounted for as this hurts us producers.I am sure our production cost(s) will rise in 2008,feed,medicine,electric etc,at this point do not see a threat from imported meat products.The key is to watch the market place and if one has the stocks to unload when prices are higher,there seems to be 2 times in a given year when hog prices spike upwards,having hogs in inventory gives a producer a better chance.The problem with this is,most producers cannot wait,hogs eat alot of food and take up valuable space.Its a fine line hog producers must walk,so far the future looks bright for those willing to take a chance in the Hog Business.
GOOD FARMING TO ALL IN 2008
mikey