Pinoyagribusiness

Why do things move so slowly of in the phills?Its just painfull Been asking the family members over there to get a meat shop going..They allways say there none for rent..then I always try to tell them see if we can buy one..Everyone is allways looking to make a few pesos. Again I try to explain to the wife it will help with the feeds and max are profits skipping the middle man all together they just dont get it..Maybe I will have to try to get a leave from my work or just quit my job her in canada and get everything running as I like it too be.Then when I get back to canada get another welding job. I just have to much money and time involved in this pig buss.Would there be anyway to find out if there is any stalls for sale through the net?When I was there in july talked to a guy who sold 20 pigs a day at the market that would be more $$$$cash then I make a day her in canada go figure.

Mr.Hog,I understand what you mean. I started sort of a business back in PI 2 years ago which my brother-in-law was the one running it, I supporte him with cash and education (training), everytime I called he said everything was OK then I went home last year in a short notice that I found out everything I told him to do was only half done. I told him that I don't want to continue the business and he begged to give him another chance but I refused, worst case my father-in-law also got mad at me to the point that he chased me out of the house. What I'm saying is its hard to let somebody run your business. Now, what I'm going to do as I said The whole family will go back to the PHILIPPINES (wife &2 kids)and do business myself leaving my RN job behind here in Canada, worst case scenario if things go wrong in PI will just go back here toronto and find another RN job.

Robbie 

Hey robbie you have a nice job in toronto..You must think you will make big money in the phills?or do you just want to get buss up and running then go back to canada?

Mr Hog,remember 3 weeks ago i was ready to throw in the towel with the hog business,we find out the brother in law was charging us by the kilo for the hog chow when we were paying for 50 kilo sacks,he had 5 extra sows we did not know was there and we were paying for their feed and he collected the money and kept it for himself,he was charging us 6000.00 peso a month for the goat care,we find out our prized fullblood goats were just skin and bones,that really pissed me off then,had to hire another manager the sister in law who we bought the welding shop for,her and her husband took the bankrupt shop and turned it around,thank god for her,she told us about the state of the goats,now with the proper feed the goats are doing better,minus the one that died of grain overload,my fault.It was you who told me not to give up,and I am hanging in there to the end,starting in Dec.will take full control of the hog operation there,they have their warning,we want receipts on everything,and we mean everything,we will find our own market and will invest in a truck to get us to Cebu,it is possible maybe they are unable to rent a stall,you may be right,you may need to grease some palms there,buy someone out,money talks,you are lucky 5 min. from the public market,us we are so remote the flies cannot find us,hehehe.Hang in there,if I knew what I know now about hog farming,would have done it way different,spent less on the barns and started with a few sows and work our way up slowly,the feed is a killer,look how spread out the wife and I are,pay for 3 helpers and their meals,the brother in laws food bill and hydro bill,every time they break their cell phone end up buying them another one,the list goes on and on and on.Mr Hog,you have to admit its rather exciting,you know when you phone there something has screwed up and they need more money lol,its funny tho.never enough money,those hogs are eating better than I am.God I do love the Philippines,I work in the field most of the time and when its cold as hell out,I daydream about that nice hot weather there,keeps me going alot of the time.DO NOT GIVE UP,thing will get better I am sure,think positive.        Good Farming                mikey

Mikey & Mr.hog, Surrender or die, hehehehehehe. Same dreams guys, that's why I decided to give it a try in the philippines. If again things go on the opposite direction? well back here in Canada again.

Definitely learning from you guys. As you guys said start small until you get it perfect but if I run out ammo. until I succeed again back in Canada save again, at least second time around you know what to do.

Thankx alot for the much needed support mikey.

Boys,men like their toys,these farming ventures is my toys.Mr Hog do not give up on me now,you pumped me up weeks ago,do not jump ship on me.Mr Hog you and I made the same mistake,we tried to get to big too fast,look at from this point of view,we are going through growing pains,will be painful in the short term,but the long term looks good for us farmers,the country needs food,we are sitting on a gold mine.In the long run we will get it straighten out.
Good Farming Boys and Sara can learn from our mistakes,before he and his family makes the same mistakes we made.In time boys we will sit back and laugh about this moment,but not today.
The good Doc. has been quiet tho.                        mikey

I have been busy trying to migrate our forum to another server. ;D ;D There are chances that some part of this post could be loss.

I will leave that in your capable hands Doc.
mikey

Sara,you know what they say,dreams are free,try to make them real is the expensive part,lol
Good Day                       mikey

Mikey,you're right. My home sweet home is getting closer or maybe not. Good luck to myself.

Mikey Dont worry I wont give up ;D ;D

Mr Hog,in the near future you will have a large operation,just going through growing pains now,things have a way of working themselves out.
All in good time,we both have too much to lose at this point in time.
Good Farming To You                          mikey

After I have read your sentiments and failures, I am wondering now what will happen to my 3 sows, I have workers there at the farm and I am working here at Manila.. a large percentage of my salary is going directly to my backyard farm at batangas.. Receipt will me my last shining armor. :)

do you guys speak tagalog? anyway.. mas maganda talaga ung isa sa inyo ang mag manage ng farm ninyo.. mahirap kasi kahit kapatid mo tinitira ka. i mean pinapakain nyo na.. kakainin pa pati siko ninyo.. kaya mas maganda may mga recibo.. or iether kung di ma manage ng asawa nyo.. maybe stop it..ganun din ang gagawin ko pag nakapag labas yung asawa ko.. sya kasi ngayon yung nag aalaga and i trusted her.. not my mother-n-law,, their sister or family iehter.. kasi nangyari na yun sa akin. 18 days lang nawala kami dun sa bahay at yung kapatid na niya yung nag alaga.. pag uwi namin.. ganun pa rin ka lagi ang alaga kaya. its iether the three ang gagawin nyo.. kayo na ang bahala.. maganda ang hog business.. ang problema is the manager.

yun din ang sentimento ko..

Mr. Hog and Mikey are foreigners, so their native tongue is english.

    I do understand what you both felt about those things that happened to u guys.Actually i'm a filipina married also to a canadian and just started up a hog business also in Phils.It's really hard to find someone whom you could really trust when it comes to money...not only in Phils. but anywhere...:)I myself was fooled by my own sister when i trusted her to buy a house and lot for me in Phils. while i was so busy workin hard abroad...:)But anyways,what i did now to my small piggery...i just hired someone and provided them a shelter in my farm ...so no need to be away from the pigs. I  am the one who is contacting and sending money directly to the feed supplier ...and also if there are meds. needed  every month!In that case...i don't have to worry if she is really spending the money the way i want it!When we expanded our piggery...every materials that she bought had to come up with receipts and she scanned it and was sent to me through email.I hope these things that i did could help you guys and could make you come up with some much more better ideas on how to make business w/o being lied to when it comes to money...:)Have a nice day...:)

I have learned sometimes one mans dream is only his/her own.As the old saying goes,one can lead a horse to water but cannot force it to drink.Farmers and farming at one time was considered a poor persons job but in this world today farmers and farming is really for the rich as farms are becoming bigger and bigger with larger numbers of livestocks.When you stop and think about it for a minute,farming requires large sums of capital and/or good credit.No matter where one lives on this planet,we all need to eat and all this food comes from farms and farmers.For those who at one time believed there was no future in farming,I think you are wrong and with prices rising for land and everything being equal,takes more and more money to live the life of a farmer and we are the people who feed the masses.

Twenty years ago there still was family farms here in N.America.Today we call them Corp. Farms.Farms managed from corp. offices in the city as the family farm was taken over from Big Business.As more and more capital flows into the Philippines so will the size of the farms increase.Business 101.For those who turned their backs on farming,might be too late to get into the business now.Farming worldwide today is big business.

Farming Feeds the World:
Michael

Good day to all po..

I have read all your sentiments and experiences with hog raising.. My uncle and aunt bought a farm last February.. They told me that I will be in charge in managing the farm, budgeting, marketing and legal terms.. My father is in charge with the operation of the farm (piggery and farming) while my brother is in charge of feeding the pigs and cleaning the pen.. I don't spend most of my time in the farm. But I make sure that I know what's happening everyday. My uncle and auntie supported my college years including my family that's why, even if I only got my allowance in this business, I make it a point that I show them how grateful I am because they helped me and my family. Doing my part in our farm is really hard. I rather choose to clean pig pens or plant crops than doing the managing and budgeting. Especially to the part of decision making because sometimes (or even most of the time) I am always caught in the middle (between my father and my uncle and auntie's side). Even if I didn't took up any business course or hog raising course, I do something to improve my knowledge and skills so that my uncle and auntie would not be disappointed. They always told me to always treat the farm as if it is really mine and to treat it like my baby.. I always prepare the farm records like farm sales and expenses, farm inventory, farm sales record, farm attendance and payroll, breeding operation and so on.. I make it sure that I send it on my auntie's email.. We always have our communication.. I have my Globe and Sun numbers where my auntie could contact me.. I gave all the receipts to them.. They were the ones who contact the feeds and pay most of the time through check. I wanted this farm to prosper to prove to my uncle and auntie that the tuition fee they provide me during my college years are not wasted. And I do love my family. This is the only thing I could do to help them. There were times that I got scolded when my uncle and auntie got mad. There were also times that I wanted to give up and just pursue my career in Information Technology because my allowance is not enough to support my family's necessities. I already worked as a Secretary of the chief librarian and an IT college instructor for my alma mater,  But then maybe this is what God wanted me to do.. I hope that our business will be successful. It is not always that a relative would fund a business, that's why I will try my best to help and make the business prosper.  Even though I am young with this business, I hope some of this could also help and enlighten some of our fellow hog raisers..

Thanks and God bless our business..
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If you have problem in your farm just ask here or send me an email so i could give some advice.
Hog raising is volume base business... The more animal you have the more you will earn....BUt it is very rewarding and therapeutic also...

Yes, this business is very challenging. You should have TLC on your hogs until you sell them to market.
Good genetics, Good feeds and Good management to your herds. Good Luck Guys.

Good day to all..

We are thinking of buying another batch of piglets (50 heads)  before our gilts got pregnant..
We would like to buy a quality piglets that would not cost too much..
Genetics is really important but management also counts..
I ask for a little patience to our fellow hog raisers out there because I have a lot of questions in mind..
Thanks for all the advices..
This forum really help/helped me a lot..

Thanks again and may God bless all of us..

Very true,this is a interesting business.If your heart is not into farming and adapt the old ways of out of sight and out of mind you will fail in this business.Farming today is very different from the old days as the business is changing almost daily.Prices go up and prices go down.Try and guess where the prices might be in the future and you will drive yourself crazy.

The animals themselves are changing also.Patents on the animal means someone else owns the animal in question and the farmer/producer now becomes only the babysitter and has no control over its future.You have no rights to breed this animal only to raise it to a certain weight and then  ship it off for processing.Contract farming and you need to hire your own lawyer to explain the legal language and understand what will happen to you and your farm if you do not follow what the contract dictates.All and all this is where the real money in the future will be made.The farmer/producer is the next generation of new found wealth.We all have to eat,no matter where we live.We are in the protein delivery business.