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Proper Shifting of feeds
« on: November 07, 2007, 01:09:36 PM »
Proper Shifting feeds

Ang pagpapalit ng feeds ay ginagawa sa dalawang kadahilanan.:
1)   Paglipat sa susunod na baiting/stage ng pagpapakain.
2)   Paglipat ng ibang brand o produkto.

Dapat na tandaan na sa paglipat ng feeds ay kailangan gawin itong gradual.

Halimbawa:

Kung ang inyong alaga ay pinapakain nyo ng prestarter at ito ay ililipat na sa starter feeds ito ay dapat nyong gawin

1.   Unang araw : Maghalo ng 75% prestarter at 25% starter feeds. Ang ganitong combinasyon ang ang inyong ipakain sa kanilang alaga sa tuwing papakainin ang baboy
2.   Pangalawang araw: Maghalo ng 50% prestarter at 50 % starter.
3.   Pangatlong araw: Maghalo ng 25% prestarter at 75 % starter.
4.   Pang apat na araw:100% starter na.

Kung ikaw naman ay lilipat ng ibang brand kahit na parehas ng stage ng pagpapakain ay dapat ganito rin ang pagpapakain.

Ito ay ginagawa upang maiwasan ang pagtatae o paninibago ng baboy sa pagkain.
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Proper Shifting feeds

Shifting of feeds is due to two reason:

1.   Shifting to the next stage of the feeding program.
2.   Changing from one brand to another.

We must always remember that shifting feeds should be done gradual.

Example:

If your animal current feed is prestarter and you are shifting it to starter this is what you should do:
1. First day:  Mix 75% prestarter and 25% starter feeds. This combination should be given to the animal every meal.
2. Second day: Mix 50% prestarter and 50% starter.
3. Third day:  Mix 25% prestarter and 75% starter.
4. Fourth day:  Give 100% starter.

If you are shifting from one brand to another whether it is the same stage or not you must follow the same procedure as above.

This is primarily done to prevent diarrhea and to prevetn upset stomach to the animal.
« Last Edit: November 07, 2007, 01:17:40 PM by nemo »
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Re: Proper Shifting of feeds
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2007, 02:12:58 PM »
how about mixing different feeds from different brands in the same stage... that would affect the growth of our stocks?


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Re: Proper Shifting of feeds
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2007, 03:24:11 PM »
It would affect the quality but i cannot be certain whether for good or for bad.

The nice thing about using only one brand in a certain stage of the animal you could determine whether that line of feed at that stage is giving you a good result.

I have seen some raisers that uses pre starter and starter feeds of a premium brand and then when the time comes to shift to grower and finisher feeds they shift to another brand because they say the grower of this brand have a better performance compared the other brand.
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Re: Proper Shifting of feeds
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2008, 12:25:22 PM »
Proper Shifting feeds

Ang pagpapalit ng feeds ay ginagawa sa dalawang kadahilanan.:
1)   Paglipat sa susunod na baiting/stage ng pagpapakain.
2)   Paglipat ng ibang brand o produkto.

Dapat na tandaan na sa paglipat ng feeds ay kailangan gawin itong gradual.

Halimbawa:

Kung ang inyong alaga ay pinapakain nyo ng prestarter at ito ay ililipat na sa starter feeds ito ay dapat nyong gawin

1.   Unang araw : Maghalo ng 75% prestarter at 25% starter feeds. Ang ganitong combinasyon ang ang inyong ipakain sa kanilang alaga sa tuwing papakainin ang baboy
2.   Pangalawang araw: Maghalo ng 50% prestarter at 50 % starter.
3.   Pangatlong araw: Maghalo ng 25% prestarter at 75 % starter.
4.   Pang apat na araw:100% starter na.

Kung ikaw naman ay lilipat ng ibang brand kahit na parehas ng stage ng pagpapakain ay dapat ganito rin ang pagpapakain.

Ito ay ginagawa upang maiwasan ang pagtatae o paninibago ng baboy sa pagkain.
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english version:


Proper Shifting feeds

Shifting of feeds is due to two reason:

1.   Shifting to the next stage of the feeding program.
2.   Changing from one brand to another.

We must always remember that shifting feeds should be done gradual.

Example:

If your animal current feed is prestarter and you are shifting it to starter this is what you should do:
1. First day:  Mix 75% prestarter and 25% starter feeds. This combination should be given to the animal every meal.
2. Second day: Mix 50% prestarter and 50% starter.
3. Third day:  Mix 25% prestarter and 75% starter.
4. Fourth day:  Give 100% starter.

If you are shifting from one brand to another whether it is the same stage or not you must follow the same procedure as above.

This is primarily done to prevent diarrhea and to prevetn upset stomach to the animal.

doc...same application din po ba sa starter to grower,grower to finisher....

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Re: Proper Shifting of feeds
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2008, 04:47:04 PM »
yes same procedure is applied
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Re: Proper Shifting of feeds
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2008, 06:47:53 PM »
It would affect the quality but i cannot be certain whether for good or for bad.

The nice thing about using only one brand in a certain stage of the animal you could determine whether that line of feed at that stage is giving you a good result.

I have seen some raisers that uses pre starter and starter feeds of a premium brand and then when the time comes to shift to grower and finisher feeds they shift to another brand because they say the grower of this brand have a better performance compared the other brand.

Doc ano pong brand ng feeds ang sinasabi nila na maganda kapag grower and finisher na?

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Re: Proper Shifting of feeds
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2008, 10:37:33 PM »
almost all naman is a good feeds. it is a matter of whether it is compatible with your breed.

In general, you could be certain that the high end feeds is a good quality (ACE feeds, B-meg, CJ, Cargill, Farmers edge, Pigrolac, Uno etc.) the question is whether it is compatible with your breed.

I can attest for ACE feeds and UNO feeds, i used to work for them and they have a good quality feeds.
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Re: Proper Shifting of feeds
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2008, 05:54:34 PM »
Doc,

Ano po ba yung tamang gulang at tamang timbang ng biik kung ililipat ko na siya ng pagkain?
ex. pre - starter to starter - edad at timbang
     starter - grower - edad at timbang
     grower - finisher - edad at timbang

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Re: Proper Shifting of feeds
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2008, 10:32:08 PM »
This is taken from the pamphlet of ACE FEEDS feeding program


Type of feeds
booster
pre starter
starter
grower
finisher
age of animal
6-35
36-60
61-90
91-120
121-up to market
kg of feed per day
0.10
0.60
1.20
2.2
2.8

I could not find the weight per stage.
More often in backyard setting feeds is given according to age of animal and not in weight for it would be stressful for the animal to weigh them

Those who are old timers in the business could estimate the weight of the animal by merely looking at them. By this means they adjust the feed according to the weight of the animal.

      
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Re: Proper Shifting of feeds
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2008, 07:17:20 PM »

Doc

Thanks for the reply

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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2008, 07:08:32 PM »
This is taken from the pamphlet of ACE FEEDS feeding program


Type of feeds
booster
pre starter
starter
grower
finisher
age of animal
6-35
36-60
61-90
91-120
121-up to market
kg of feed per day
0.10
0.60
1.20
2.2
2.8

I could not find the weight per stage.
More often in backyard setting feeds is given according to age of animal and not in weight for it would be stressful for the animal to weigh them

Those who are old timers in the business could estimate the weight of the animal by merely looking at them. By this means they adjust the feed according to the weight of the animal.

      


May specific hours po ba kung kaylan papakainin ang baboy?

if 3 times a day ang pakain, mga anong oras po ba? 

first feed = 6 am
second feed = 12 midday
third feed = 6 pm

ok po ba to?

or

first feed = 6 am
second feed = 2 pm
third feed = 10 pm

need help po..

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Re: Proper Shifting of feeds
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2008, 02:49:50 PM »
Go for 6-12-6.

Just always follow the same feeding time every day.

Changes in feeding time could lead to stress.
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Re: Proper Shifting of feeds
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2008, 06:40:57 PM »
doc..
    tanung ko lang yung paglilipat po ba ng pagkain sa susunod na stage eh kasama rin sa araw ng feeding program?halimbawa magpapakain ako ng prestarter sa loob ng 35 days kung ang proper shifting eh gnagawa sa loob ng apat na araw ibig po bang sabihin sa ika 31 days ko na po ba uumpisahan ang paglipat ng pakain tama po ba?thank you doc....

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« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2008, 12:24:29 AM »
if 35 days ka magpapakain at 34 days pwede ka na mag start ng 75%-25% ratio ,then next day 50-50, then 25-75 and last 100% na
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2008, 03:19:38 PM »
if 35 days ka magpapakain at 34 days pwede ka na mag start ng 75%-25% ratio ,then next day 50-50, then 25-75 and last 100% na
doc,
  ibig nyo po bang sabihin kailangan munang tapusin ang shifting procedure bago magstart ng pagbibilang ng araw sa susunod na stage?halimbawa dapat umpisahan na nya ang pagshift sa ika34 araw and supposedly ang ika 36araw ay starter stage na eh may 2araw pa na natitira para sa shifting hindi pa po ba na cionsider na first day yung 36araw para sa strter stage?at sa ika 36 na arw anu po ba ang susundin na timbang ng pakain yung first stage(prestarter) o yung second stage(starter)thank you po doc...........

 

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