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Proper Feeding
« on: November 05, 2007, 02:37:12 PM »
Dalawang paraan ng Pagpapakain:
1. Restricted= may oras at dami ang ibinibigay kada pakain.
2. Ad libitum: ang baboy ay nakakain ng kahit anong oras at kahit gaano karami ang gusto nito.

Karaniwang gawain sa backyard:

Ang biik na dumedede pa sa inahin ay tinuturuan kumain sa edad na 3 araw.
Kumuha ng feeds na pangkulig at ito ay basain at durugin. Itong nadurog na feeds ay siya naman ipapahid sa dede ng inahin. Ito ay ginagawa upang masanay sa lasa ng feeds ang mga kulig. Gawin ito mga 3 araw.

Maglagay din ng kaunting pagkain sa kanilang pakainan (mga kalahating dakot ng feeds) at kada araw ito ay damihan hanggat kayang ubusin ng kulig. Palagian ang pagbibigay ng pagkain sa mga ito.

Pag ang mga kulig ay bagong walay ang pagpapakain ay ginagawa 3 beses isang araw. Sa bagong walay mga 0.5-1 kilo kada baboy sa isang araw ang kaya nilang ubusin o kada kainan kailangan ng 333grams na pakain bawat isa. Pero sa umpisa ay maaari hindi nila ito agad maubos kaya mas magandang untian muna ito.

sa starter stage ang kaya nilang ubusin ay 1-1.5 kg per day, grower 1.5-2.5 kg at finisher 2.5 - 3 kgs.

Halimbawa:
 
                      Feed/day          Frequency of feeding         Feed per meal
pre starter           1 kg                           3                            333 grams
starter               1- 1.5                          3                          333- 500  grams
grower               1.5- 2.5                       3                            500-833 grams
finisher               2.5-3                          3                              833-1 kg

Booster feeds from 3 day old up to 30 day old.
prestarter 30-50 day old
starter 51-80 day old
grower 81-120 day old
finisher 120-150 day old.

Ang nabanggit ay halimbawa lang at ang dami ng pakain ay ibatay sa rekomendasyon ng feed company  na inyong ipinapakain. Tandaan na sa baboy hindi na baleng sobra sa pakain wag lang kulang.

****this is the latest ACE FEED FEEDING PROGRAM (January 2011)

uri ng pagkain           edad           dami ng pakain           kabuuang dami ng pakain
ace gerver              6-35               0.10 kg                           3 kg
ACE prestarter         36-60             0.60 kg                           15 kg
Ace starter             61-90             1.20 kg                          36 kg 
ace grower             91-120            2.2 kg                            66 kg
ace finisher            121-150           2.8                                84 kg         
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Two ways of feeding:
1.   Restricted: the amount and time of feeding is controlled/defined.
2.    Ad libitum: animal have unlimited access to feed.

Usual Backyard Practice:

Sucling piglets are trained to eat feeds at the age of 3. Feeds is poured with liquid and mashed and applied to the mammary of the sows. This is done to accustomed the piglet to the taste of the feeds.

You need to put small amount of feeds in the feeding trough (Half-fist full). And every day gradually increase it up to the point that they can eat it all. You have to put feeds often.

When the piglet is weaned feeding is done 3 times a day . Weaned pig can eat 0.5- 1kg s of feed everyday or every feeding they need around 333 grams each.  But at first usually they cannot eat it all so you need to lessen it at first.

At starter stage a pig can consume 1-1.5 kgs of feeds per day, grower 1.5-2.5 kgs and at finisher 2.5-3 kgs.

Example:
 
                      Feed/day          Frequency of feeding         Feed per meal
pre starter           1 kg                           3                            333 grams
starter                1-1.5                          3                           333-500  grams
grower                1.5-2.5                       3                            500-833 grams
finisher                2.5-3                         3                              833-1 kg

Booster feeds from 3 day old up to 30 day old.
prestarter 30-50 day old
starter 51-80 day old
grower 81-120 day old
finisher 120-150 day old.


The above mentioned are examples and the amount of feeds to be given should always be based on the feed manufacturers suggestion.

****this is the latest ACE FEED FEEDING PROGRAM (January 2011)

Type of feeds           age               feed consumption/day          total feed consumption
ace gerver              6-35               0.10 kg                           3 kg
ACE prestarter         36-60             0.60 kg                           15 kg
Ace starter             61-90             1.20 kg                          36 kg 
ace grower             91-120            2.2 kg                            66 kg
ace finisher            121-150           2.8                                84 kg         
« Last Edit: January 04, 2011, 09:13:12 PM by nemo »
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Re: Proper Feeding
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2007, 06:14:19 PM »
Hi Doc,

Thanks for the info. For better guidance, kindly indicate at what month/stage is the pre-starter, starter, grower & finisher.

thanks a lot!


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Re: Proper Feeding
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2007, 08:38:39 PM »
I have updated the post to include the months/days to give.
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Re: Proper Feeding
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2007, 03:11:55 AM »
Doc, good information,would you say more farmer(s) pratice backyard feedings,3 times per day.If you fed your stock more times,lets say 5 times per day,would they grow faster?Wondering,if one feeds more and more often,should grow faster.             Thanks    mikey

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Re: Proper Feeding
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2007, 12:25:57 PM »
Yup more farmer practice 3 times a day.
It is not the frequency of feeding that will make them grow faster but the proper amount they get. Included also is the right nutrition. They will only eat what they need and what their stomach can accomodate.

The advantage of feeding them frequently  is that they grow more uniform and less problem with injuries.
Sometimes injuries happen during feeding time because they are fighting for food.They are rushing to the food.

If you give frequently and with the right amount they will be accustomed that there will be a next batch of food and they don't need to rush to get their share. So they will just slowly go to their food and eat.
« Last Edit: November 06, 2007, 02:51:19 PM by nemo »
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Re: Proper Feeding
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2007, 01:27:24 PM »
Thanks Doc,speaking for myself,5 times a day sounds good,think we will try and accomadate this in the near furure.
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Re: Proper Feeding
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2007, 08:48:01 AM »
Hi Doc,

Assuming we have properly implemented the prescirbed feeding program from booster to finisher, what would be the ideal weight at every end of the ff period:

Booster feeds from 3 day old up to 30 day old.
prestarter 30-50 day old
starter 51-80 day old
grower 81-120 day old
finisher 120-150 day old
 

I would like also to know (in case you have stat/info) what are the current prices for the ff feeds:
Booster feeds from 3 day old up to 30 day old.
prestarter 30-50 day old
starter 51-80 day old
grower 81-120 day old
finisher 120-150 day old

Further, do you have a list of piggery in the area of Rizal & Laguna.

Thanks a lot.


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Re: Proper Feeding
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2007, 10:25:49 AM »
As per my opinion don't bother to check the weight of your animal per stage. In the end of the day it is the final weight which is important. The animal should weight at least around 85 kgs above or at least you have an 10% or more  profit.

It does not usually follows that if you have a big animal you will earn big also.

Although for scientific purposes i would just post later on the ideal weight per stage of animal. This is according to the feed manufacturer. I do not have the copy of it with me right now, so post it later.

average price (premium feeds):
booster 100-200 pesos per kilo
prestarter 1000-1200 per 25 kgs
starter 950-1100 per 50 kgs
grower 850-1000 per 50 kgs
finisher 800-950 per 50 kgs

Some product maybe much cheaper or expensive. This is just a rough estimate of the leading brands. There are more than 500 feedmillers in the philippines and they have different prices and it is very difficult to give an accurate average.

It would help if everybody could post their current feed price, brand and area.

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Re: Proper Feeding
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2007, 02:55:40 PM »
Thanks Doc!

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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2007, 03:52:36 PM »
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Re: Proper Feeding
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2007, 11:05:54 AM »
just wanna ask, how much is the total cost spent for feeds from the day piglets eat up to fattening?!

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Re: Proper Feeding
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2007, 11:42:38 AM »
It would range from 3,600-4,200
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Re: Proper Feeding
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2007, 01:19:44 PM »
Ang total direct cost ko Doc naman to be honest, abot ng P5170 per head.  That includes feeds from booster to finisher, medi vacs and vits, amortization of sow purchase cost, a.i. cost, feeds eaten by gestating sow from day 1 till lactating, amortization of purchase cost of bulugan.   Of course excluding indirect costs. So, we really have to make sure our harvest  weights an average of 85 and farm gate price should not be lower than P80/kg.   

Comparing it with your estimated 3,600 hindi tayo nagkakalayo.  If piglet production costs 1,500 then 5100 ang total. 


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Re: Proper Feeding
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2007, 02:53:12 PM »
Yup at 3,600 the average should be 85 kgs. Currently piglets cost around 1,800 now.
So, in backyard cost would be around 5,400++ (excluding labor and meds)

5,400/85 kgs= 63.52 per kilo break even.

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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2008, 02:01:47 PM »
Yup at 3,600 the average should be 85 kgs. Currently piglets cost around 1,800 now.
So, in backyard cost would be around 5,400++ (excluding labor and meds)

5,400/85 kgs= 63.52 per kilo break even.



Doc ano po ba ang maganda gawin, ibenta po ba ang biik o mag fattening? Kung sa biik po ay magkano po ba dapat ibenta ang isang biik? Kung sa fattening magkano po ba dapat ibenta sa kada kilo ang buhay na baboy?

 

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