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SWINE / Re: Swine Raising vs. Poultry Rasing
« on: November 14, 2013, 10:51:36 PM »
30 sow level p lng ako. Turned 3 yrs p lng itong hobby ko, maganda kc ung may pinagkakaabalahan ka kapag umuuwi ka ng probinsya. =)

Pwede kng bumisita sa farm, just let me know kung kelan. Maganda this coming December kc mahaba bakasyon.

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SWINE / Re: Swine Raising vs. Poultry Rasing
« on: November 13, 2013, 11:00:00 PM »
@Hoggy, san ka po sa Pangasinan?

Sa San Fabian po pigfarm ko.

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Interested rin po. Please send it to: francisfc_dizon@yahoo.com.
Thanks!

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SWINE / Re: Feeds Poll
« on: November 09, 2013, 07:21:24 PM »
@beto - Depende po sa area ung price ng mga dealers. Nagpapatong po kc sila ng transpo cost. Dealer's price bgay skin nung distributor ng HiO dito sa pangasinan. 940 po prestr premium ng HiO na gamit ko ngaun, 30days. Kpag cash 900.

Not sure kung ung str special nia is still 1180, 1060 po ung grower. Bk hindi na yan latest price kc.

@baboydamo - May big distributor ng denka jan sa la union kc. Inaabot nga nila haggang dito sa pangasinan pero mataas na patong nila dahil sa transpo cost.

Bmeg nmn ung plant nila is sa binalonan, pangasinan which is closer to us. Mejo malyo nmn na sa area mo (not sure kung malapit ka sa isa pa nilang plant jan as la union) and bk wala ring big distributor kaya dealers price ung naibbgay s inyo which is more expensive vs denka.

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SWINE / Re: Question for Bmeg users
« on: November 08, 2013, 10:43:07 AM »
4 months after walay ang pinaguusapan natin dito po hindi 4 months of age. Kung maganda lahi ng alaga mo and maganda management, aabot talaga sa 85. Tried and tested ko na xa kaya ako bumalik uli sa bmeg.

Kung kulang ang ipapakain mo sa age nila, di mo maaachieve ung published target weights. Kung naghhabol ka ng timbang at gusto mong dagdagan ipapakain nila, hindi rin effective un. Tandaan po na ung published feeding guide is already optimal based sa kanilang study. Anumang sobra kasi is idudumi lng nila un.

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SWINE / Re: Question for Bmeg users
« on: November 07, 2013, 11:40:59 PM »
Starter ipapakain days 51-82. 1-1.2kg/day.

Kinuha ko ng ito sa ibang thread. BMEG dynamix (farm grade) gamit ko pero parehas lng ito sa BMEG premium.

 Age         Bigat    Tagal ng Pagpapakain   Pakain bawat Araw
Booster          5-20       2-5kg           15 days                    0.10kg
Pre starter    21-50       6-11kg          15 days                    0.25kg
Starter         51-82      12-25kg         32 days                    1.00-1.20kg
Grower         83-122     26-60           40 days                    2.00-2.20kg
Finisher       123-150     61-80           28 days                    2.20-2.50kg

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SWINE / Re: Feeds Poll
« on: November 07, 2013, 10:45:49 PM »
Cheaper po ba denkapig talaga? One agent went sa farm namin but the price was higher than bmeg po e.

@keera, not to promote brands here but you have to ask sa bayan nyo kung ano ung usual brands na avaiable sa kanila. Madalas na may dealer are bmeg, uno, feedpro, purina, sunjin etc.

Not sure kung may HiO/newHope jan sa inyo but their prices are really lower compared sa known brands. Quality is good kc I'm using it sa mga weaners ko.

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SWINE / Re: Proper Feeding
« on: October 24, 2013, 10:25:32 PM »
@keera, tama po ung nktta nyong findings. Sa taas po kc ng kinukuha nyong feeds e tlagang break even na lng aabutin nyo. Cash po ba yan? Kung terms yan or charge to harvest, maniniwalaa pa po ako sa presyo.

San po ba area/province nyo? Baka po mkhanap po kyo ng ibang feeds na gngmit nmn po ng iba jan. Magtanong tanong na lng po kyo sa palengke or better use the internet to look for other commercial feeds (bmeg, uno, etc.) . You need po to talk to an agent para mabigyan po kyo ng magandang price. Malaki rin po kc patong kapag sa tindahan kyo bumili. Important to consider is the volume ng bags na ioorder nyo para mabigyan kyo ng magandang discount or price.

Note po na usually 1 month po ung shelf life ng mga feeds. So better compute for your monthly consumption before you talk to an agent.

Maganda rin po na if you plan to really/seriously invest on piggery business, mag inahin po kayo. Mas may kita po kyo jan vs pagbili lagi ng biik.


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SWINE / Corn Soya Copra sellers and buyers
« on: October 18, 2013, 12:42:32 PM »
Starting a new topic to get information from the readers as I'm looking po for corn, soya, copra sellers. Do we have from this group po? Please send contact details and pricing na rin. This can be a good venue for doing business/trading po.

My swine farm is in Pangasinan, so anyone who is in the province or nearby, we can talk. =)
Please contact me at: 09392758626.


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BREEDING / Re: Optimum Length of Time for a Boar to be in Stud:
« on: October 11, 2013, 11:13:16 PM »
Got it. Thanks, doc.

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BREEDING / Re: Breeding Farms
« on: October 11, 2013, 01:03:26 AM »
Open this link po: https://www.google.com.ph/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bai.da.gov.ph%2Findex.php%2Fdownloadable-service-transaction-forms%2Fcategory%2F29-livestock-development-division%3Fdownload%3D138%3Aregistered-hog-breeders-and-importers&ei=wNxWUsmwLYbmiAfA9oCADg&usg=AFQjCNFExeUo-PD8QU3WNDbllfggluc6MQ&bvm=bv.53760139,d.aGc

This came from Bureau of Animal Industry's site. I used this list to also ask the same. I'm planning to replace my boar and add new gilts rin.
Google search lng po pag may time. =)

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Thanks, doc.

Upon further reading sa mga sites, it may seem to be pseudorabies po tumama sa kanila. To understand it, I have to go back to the time na nagkaprob and found that there is a common figure/item, the pig's pens which are near my boar. For all instances kc po, doon lagi na nkttang may natatamaan with those signs, including sneezing, parang may uhog sa ilong then incoordination including ung head kumikiling sa isang side.

I have two boars kasi which their pens have been part of the growing pen, nilagyan lng po namin ng divider, steel bars lng po pagitan. For some reason po cguro, the weaners na nailagay namin doon sa adjacent may have direct contact to the boar's nose, etc. That the boar may already be a carrier of herpes virus which triggers that disease spreading and its symptoms na parang pneumonia ung result.

It's a lessons learned and I have immediately transferred my boars to a renovated pen instead and have then vaccinated all of my weaners to prevent further outbreak.

Per latest news ng tao ko po (as I'm based in Manila), no other similar diseases is seen in the herd.
I hope I made the right move. =)

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DISEASES / Re: PRRS or ERYSIPELAS
« on: October 10, 2013, 12:26:09 AM »
Per your description po, it is more leaning to erysipelas. For more details on the disease and its causes, how to prevent from occurring, maganda po ung site na ito: http://www.thepigsite.com/diseaseinfo/41/erysipelas

Marami pong articles regarding but only for pigs ang anjan, including the basics po. I find it helpful and nka bookmark na skin yan.  There is also a quick disease guide para masabi kung anong sakit po tumama. Good for both beginners and advanced pig owners/technicians/stockmans.


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BREEDING / Re: Optimum Length of Time for a Boar to be in Stud:
« on: October 07, 2013, 09:45:32 PM »
Helpful sana itong topic na ito kung may refeenced figures talaga, kaso wala. =(

Doc, ilang years po ba bago palitan ang boar in general sense? Kapag 4year old n po b nya, assuming ok nmn ung result ng stud nya? Di ko po muna icoconsider ung factor na ung newer boar e mas superior or will have better performance (as if po e kukuha po ako from a reputable breeder which I don't have yet capital for that =) ). So i-mamaximize ko po muna ung usage ng boar ko for now. Hanggang kelan po ba ito, at what age ko po icu-cull?

Thanks.

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SWINE / Re: Please help on my sow problem
« on: September 16, 2013, 10:30:46 PM »
Contrary to what you hear po, eto ung mga criteria in selecting a replacement gilt (doc, please feel free to add if I miss any):

- as much as possible select not from the first parity (unang batch ng panganak) - mas mainam na kmuha sa sumunod since nagkaron ka ng prob jan sa unang panganak
- mas maganda kung kmuha ng gagawing inahin doon sa 2nd or 3rd parity or if ung anak nya is malaki litter size (this will give you better chances na magiging maganda ung offspring nya at marami kung manganak)
- 2 stages po kc ung selection (weaner stage and growing stage) pumili ng at least 2 during weaning stage and consider ung mga teats (maganda kung 14 ung suso and buhay at pare-parehas ung distance in-between); then during growing stage, you need to select alin sa 2 ung maganda kinalabasan in terms of body and ung hitsura ari nya (normal lng, hindi maliit/malaki and ung dulo hindi xa nakaturo pataas) =)

Just my two cents po.

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