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SWINE / Re: Starting a swine business.
« on: April 10, 2007, 11:03:52 AM »
Sa tingin ko po medyo mahirap maattain ang 95 kg in 90 days kahit na magstart kayo ng 25 kgs.  So dito magfofocus ang kanilang usapan. Kung sakaling hindi maattain ang ganitong timbang ano ang magiging penalty nila. Add pa din sa idea ay kung sakaling may mamatay dito sa alaga ninyo ito ba ay ibabawas sa kanila kung sakaling oo, magkano o paaano ang computasyon.

Climate control= does it mean air conditioned or tunnel ventilated. kahit alin man sa dalawa possible na sa electric bill palang ang monthly ninyo is pinakamababa na ang  10T kapag bentilated at pag aircon around 20t minimum.

Labor cost nyo minimum na 2 tao ang kailangan.

Yun nagtatayo po ng piggery kalimitan around 2-3 years bawi na nila ang kanilang puhunan. Sa monteroy ano po ba ang nasabi sa kanilang ROI?

Ask din po nila kung may specific limit ang pagkain ng baboy nila. Halimbawa sa kanila ba dapat kapag 5 sako na nakain ng baboy titimbang na ba ito ng 95 kgs at kapag sumobra dun ibabawas ba ito sa kita nila.

If possible po try to ask monterey kung meron po silang mairerefer na mga contact grower din nila para mainterview nyo po nang in and out of the business.

So far sa tingin ko po ang malaking problem nila is the 95 kgs in 90 days for me medyo mahirap ito.

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SWINE / Re: Starting a swine business.
« on: April 08, 2007, 11:59:55 AM »
HIndi ko po masasabi sa ngayon kung maganda o pangit ang contract growing ng monterey sa dahilang hindi ko po alam kung ano ba ang terms na ibinibigay ng monterey.

Ito po ay ilang pointers para makatulong sa kanilang pagdesisyon kung papasok ba sila sa contract growing.

1.  Ano ang target weight nila? Kung sakali bang hindi kayo umaabot sa target weight magkano ay ibabayad sa inyo? Kayo ba ay magkakaroon ng penalty kapg hindi kayo umabot sa target weight?

2. Kapag naaproved ang kanilang contact grower, tuloy tuloy ba ang pagdadala sa inyo ng alagain?  Kalimitan kasi sa contract growing mayroon silang specific na design na dapat ninyo sundin. AT minsan sa paggawa palang ng  kulungan milyon na ang mauubos. Kung hindi naman nila masisigurado na laging tuloy tuloy ang dating ng baboy kayo po ang malulugi.

3. sino ang gagastos sa gamot ng baboy at maysuporta ba sila na beterinaryo?

4. Pagdating sa bayaran ito ba ay COD, 15 days, etc.

5. Fix ba ang bilang ng araw na pagkuha sa inyong alaga.



Ang advantage ng contract grower ay sigurado ang buyer nila. Ang disadvantage naman ay ang malaking puhunan nito kumpara sa gumawa ka ng sariling babuyan.

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POULTRY / Re: Incubator
« on: March 12, 2007, 09:27:33 PM »
Greetings !

thank yuo for using the forum

I have updated your account so you could view the download section. There is a short article about incubation there and it also discussed how to assess the humidity using 2 thermometer. Hope it could help.

In your question about ac- dc for power saving, i am not sure about that. I do think that the computation of our electric bills is based on the wattage we use. If you will convert ac to dc and you will use the same heating pad i do think it will result in the same electric bill. THis is may opinion you could ask electrician about this matter.

Maybe those using dc power incubators are of more hi-tech design. I would try to search different design of incubators and if i find one that is related to your inqury i would post it here.


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SWINE / Re: biogas
« on: February 11, 2007, 10:54:40 PM »
walang anuman

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SWINE / Re: biogas
« on: January 24, 2007, 07:27:13 AM »
Greetings! Specific person po sa batangas ala me marerecommend. Mostly po kasi mga government agency ang nag aasist sa paggawa ng Biogas. I forward ko na lang po sa inyo ang isang email sa akin about construction ng biogas. Please expect na lang ito thru your email. Thanks.

Try to ask po local Department of Agriculture nila for sure alam po nila ang paggawa nito o kaya naman Provincial VEt office or munincipal agriculture nila.

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SWINE / Re: A SIMPLE COST AND RETURN
« on: January 24, 2007, 07:14:38 AM »
Sa computation na ibinigay ko po ang cost ng piglet is 1600- backyard price po yan. Tama po sila na dpat kasama din ang gastos sa tubig at electricity. Sa batangas po kasi mas mahal talaga ang bentahan ng biik. sa bulacan medyo iba iba po ang price ng piglet kasi marami ang nag aalaga ang huli ko pong balita is 1700 up mula pagkawalay.

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SWINE / Re: Pag aalaga ng inahin
« on: January 23, 2007, 08:45:05 PM »
Gud day mas maganda po tlaga bumili sa farm dahil mas sigurado po sila sa lahi. Ngunit dpat din siguraduhin na may warranty ang bibilhin inahin. Ang ibig po sabihin kung sakaling hindi magbuntis ang inahin ay papalitan ito ng binilhan nyo na farm. Kung sakali naman walang warranty ang inahin at isa o dlwa lang naman po ang balak nilang bilhin masmaganda po na bumili na lang sila ng fattener na gagawing inahin. Dun po sila bumili sa mga babuyan na kahit papaano ay mayruon 30 inahin pataas. Ang isang fattener na nasa edad na 5 buwan po ay maaaring magkahalaga ng 5t-8t depende po sa presyo ng live weight sa kanilang lugar. Patulong na lang sila sa bibilhan nila kung alin ba sa tingin nila maaaring gawin inahin sa mga bentahing fattener nito.

Ang baboy naman po na galing sa mga breeding farm ay maaaring magkahalaga ng 12t pataas. Pagbuntis na po mas mahal. Wala po akong alam na farm na mabibilhan sa batangas mas maganda po na ang tanungin nila ay ang mga tindahan ng feeds sa kanilang lugar kasi po kalimitan may alam sila na farm na nagbebenta ng mga inahin.

Salamat sa paggamit ng forum. Kung may iba pa po sialng katanungan mag post lang po uli sila.

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CATTLE, CARABAO, GOAT & SHEEP / Goat 101
« on: January 19, 2007, 05:02:28 PM »
This article is taken from the net. we do acknowledged the author of this article by including her name in this post...  ;D

Suzanne Gasparatto of Onion Creek Ranch. Article was first published in GOAT RANCHER Magazine,

1.   Confined goats become unhealthy or dead goats. Goats need many acres to
roam in order to stay worm- and disease-free. You cannot successfully
feedlot goats; they can't take the stress and crowding.

2.   Unexpected problems *will* occur. Illnesses, weather problems, broken
fences -- when you raise goats, problems are going to occur at the most
inconvenient time, when you are exhausted, and when you can least afford it.

3.   Trying to breed for all markets generally results in failure in most
markets. Unless you have lots of acreage, cheap labor, and a ton of
money, you cannot produce quality breeding stock, show goats, and slaughter
animals. Each category is a specific type of animal and mutually exclusive
of each other. Select one as your focal point and "dabble" in the others
-- if you must.

4.   If making the almighty dollar is your driving force, you are doomed from
the start. Focus on quality animals and honest business dealings and
the money will follow.

5.   Show goat and meat goats are *not* the same animal. If you want to raise
meat goats, don't take nutrition or management advice from show-goat
people. Don't try to make show goats into breeding stock or commercial
goats. Show goats are raised completely different from meat goats.

6.   Goats are not the tin-can-eating animals of Saturday-morning cartoon
fame. Nutrition is the most complex part of raising goats. Rumens are
very easy to upset. Think in terms of "feeding the rumen, not the
goat." Have a qualified goat nutritionist review your specific needs and
recommend a feeding program adapted specifically to your herd. Improper
feeding kills goats.

7.   If someone offers you cheap bred does in the dead of winter, you can be
sure that the deal is too good to be true. The act of moving them
cross-country under such conditions is enough to make this a bad
investment. The best you can expect is sick does and dead kids. Goats
need time to adapt to new surroundings. Use common sense when transporting
and relocating them.

8.   Goats are livestock -- not humans, dogs, or cats. They live outside,
having a distinct social pecking order, and beat the heck out of each other
regularly to maintain this ranking. Goats are delightful and intelligent
animals, but they weren't created to live in the house with you. Lose
the urbanite approach to raising goats.

9.   A goat with a big rumen is not necessarily fat. A big rumen is indicative
of a good digestive factory. A goat is a ruminant and a ruminant is a
pot-bellied animal. Fat on a goat layers around internal organs and also
forms "pones" or "handles" that you can grab with your fingers at
locations like where the chest meets the front leg. If you can pinch an
inch of flesh at that point, the goat is likely fat. A light layer
of subcutaneous fat over the ribs is essential.

10.   Goats are NOT "little cattle." Goats and cattle are ruminants and there
the similarity ends. Think of goats as *first cousins* to deer in terms of
how they live, roam, and forage for food.

11.   Goats are linear thinkers. The shortest distance between two points to a
goat is a straight line. If you place a gate at the north end of the
pasture and the home pens are south, goats are going to stand at the south
end of the pasture until you have the sense to cut a gate there. If water
is on the immediate other side of the fence, goats will not walk down and
around the fence to get to the water. It's 'right over there,' so they'll
stand in one place until you show them how to access the water or until
they die of thirst. Cut a gate for easy access and save yourself some
grief. Learn to think like a goat.

12.   A male goat has only one purpose in life -- to reproduce his species in
general and his lineage in particular. A buck in rut is a dangerous
animal. He may have been cute when you were bottle-feeding him, but he is
a male on a mission when does are in heat -- and you are in his way. Be
careful around and always respect the danger potential of breeding bucks.

13.   Bred does will kid in the worst possible weather. When sunshine changes
to storms and the temperature drops below freezing, the kidding process
will begin.

14.   Bottle babies are a pain in the rear. Delightfully cute as they are, they
grow up to be adults that are poorly socialized within the herd,
overly-dependent upon humans, and usually at the bottom of the herd's
pecking order. Do everything you can -- short of destroying a kid -- to
avoid bottle babies.

15.   Goats are creatures of habit. If you have a goat that repeatedly hangs
its horns in fencing, that goat will stick its head in the same place time
after time until you fit the horns with a PVC pipe secured by duct
tape. The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.

16.   Goats are HERD animals. More so than any other livestock, goats depend
upon staying together for safety. They have few natural defenses and
many predators.

17.   There is no such thing as a "disease-free" herd. There isn't a goat
alive that doesn't have something that could be deemed *disease* in its
system. The immune system requires a certain level of bacteria, worms, and
coccidia in order to keep the goat healthy. No producer can
guaranteed totally "disease-free" animals. When raising
livestock, disease is a fact of life. You are never "in control" to the
extent that you want to be or think you are.

18.   Goats are the "Houdinis" of the fence world. If a goat can get its
head through the fence, the body is going to follow. Goats do not
naturally have a "reverse gear." Fencing material designed especially
for goats is a *must.*

19.   Cull or cope with your creation. Goats that are repeatedly sick, are
overly susceptible to worms and coccidiosis, have chronic mastitis or foot
rot/scald -- such animals should be culled and sold for food.

20.     Their line should not be perpetuated. Sell the best for breeding
stock and eat the rest.


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POULTRY / Re: swine or poultry
« on: January 18, 2007, 07:36:30 AM »
Parehas naman po silang maganda ang ang kita. Sa manok nga lang po ay mas mabilis ang ikot ng pera at mas sensitibo. Kalimitan sa manok ay maghaharvest o makakabenta na sila sa loob ng 35-45 days. Pero dahil sa ikli ng panahon na ito kapag nagkasakit ang mga manok medyo mabilis maapektuhan ang growth nila. Para sa akin iconsider poultry as a high gain pero high risk

Sa baboy naman po ay matagal ang ikot ng pera aabutin ng 4-5 buwan bago ka makabenta. Sa taggal ng panahon ng pag aalaga hindi masyado apektado ang growth nila kapag nagkasakit ang mga ito kumpara sa manok. I consider this business as medium gain, medium risk.

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POULTRY / Re: ammonia
« on: January 17, 2007, 06:58:16 PM »
Ang sobrang dami ng ammonia sa kulungan ng manok ay maaaring magdulot respiratory problem o kaya naman conjunctivitis/pamumula sa mata ng manok. Upang maiwasan ang sobrang ammonia dapat hindi po nababasa ang  dumi ng mga manok at kung maaari sana atin itong linisin at ibilad upang maging pataba sa halaman. Kung sakali naman ang paglilinis ay ginawa lang tuwing harvest maaari po tyong maglagay ng abo sa dumi nito upang sipsipin  ng abo ang tubig ng dumi ng manok.

Salamat po sa pag gamit ng ating forum...

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SWINE / Pag aalaga ng inahin
« on: January 16, 2007, 07:27:17 PM »
Ang buhay ng isang babuyan ay nakasalalay sa inahin nito. Kalimitan ang mga ginagawang inahin ay ang mga puting lahi ng baboy tulad ng large white, landrace, hypor, dalland etc... at ang ginagawa namang barako ay yung may kulay na baboy tulad ng pietrain, duroc, berkshire, hampshire etc.

Sa pagpili ng gagawing inahin  bumili lng sa may mga  breeding farm o kya nman sa mga semi commercial farms.


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SWINE / Starting a swine business.
« on: January 15, 2007, 05:54:32 PM »
Ito po ay ilang bagay na dapat ikonsidera bago magtayo ng babuyan sa inyong lugar.

1. Itanong nyo sa inyong barangay captain kung sa inyong lugar ba ay maaaring magtayo ng babuyan. Ano ano ang mga regulasyon ng munisipyo patungkol dito? May mga lugar kasi na dpat 1 km ang layo ng babuyan sa kabahayanan kaya mas maganda kung magtanong muna sila.

2. May kuryente ba at malinis na pagkukunan ng tubig sa pagtatayuan ng babuyan.

3. Malapit ba sa kalsada ang babuyan na pagtatayuan. Madali ba itong madeliveran ng feeds, mapuntahan ng buyer etc.

4. Meron ba kayong pagkukunan ng magandang lahi ng baboy. Kung inahin naman ang inyong aalagaan. Meron bang malapit na A.I. center o kaya nagbubulog sa inyong lugar o kalapit na lugar.

5.  Ilang baboy ang balak nilang alagaan at sino ang mag aalaga dito.

6. Meron bang tindahan ng feeds na malapit sa inyong lugar.

7.  Meron bang technitian o kaya beterinaryo kayong pwedeng mapuntahan sa panahong may problema kayo sa inyong baboy.


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AQUACULTURE / AQUACULTURE
« on: January 13, 2007, 08:39:45 AM »
The business possiblity in this field is as many as the breed of the fish in the ocean.. . Hope tohear from you... Your idea, opinion and expertise.. Thank you.

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SWINE / SWINE TERMINOLOGY
« on: January 12, 2007, 07:16:06 PM »
This is may translation of some terms in tagalog. To be updated regularly. ;D

SWINE TERMINOLOGY

ADG:  Average daily gain, ang timbang na ibinibigat ng isang baboy kada araw.
Boar:  Lalaking baboy na gamit sa pagpapalahi.
Farrowing date:  Araw ng kapanganakan.
Farrowing index:  Dalas ng panganganak sa loob ng isang taon
Farrowing stall:  Kulungan ng nagpapadedeng inahin.
Farrowing:  Panganganak ng baboy.
FCR:  Feed conversion ratio, ang dami ng pagkain na kailangan ng isang baboy upang bumigat ito ng isang kilo.
Gilt:  Dumalaga, baboy na hindi pa nanganganak kahit isang beses.
Sow:  Inahing baboy na nanganak na.
Weanling:  Mga biik na iwawalay sa inahin.

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FORUM RULES / DOWNLOAD AREA
« on: January 09, 2007, 07:23:45 PM »
due to cost of bandwidth and problem with server the download area was closed down temporarily.... ;D

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